Norway's warship collides with tanker in fjord

[Jumping_Jack]

Love the bit in the footage where the Frigate suddenly lurches and a the tugs back off rapido! Definitely a 'WHOOOAA!' moment!

[dead_pan]

Love the bit in the footage where the Frigate suddenly lurches and a the tugs back off rapido!

Fake news!! The clip has clearly been doctored to make it look worse than it was. The warship barely touched the tug!!

[pettinger93]

Some years ago, the Royal Navy brought back a frigate the UK all the way from Norfolk Island lifted on a semi-submersible, after she hit a rock and very nearly sank. Only some very smart work by the crew saved her, but she was repaired. These ships are SO expensive to build, it take a lot to render them a total loss (unless they are near the end of their natural lives anyway)

[PDR1]

Originally Posted by Airbubba

Video of the tugs pushing the ship to ground it in this article (Tower Dog can translate):

https://www.aftenposten.no/norge/i/y...jKhdrCmy4F6qVw

The video seems to be running at about 10 times normal speed...

PDR

[Davef68]

Originally Posted by pettinger93

Some years ago, the Royal Navy brought back a frigate the UK all the way from Norfolk Island lifted on a semi-submersible, after she hit a rock and very nearly sank. Only some very smart work by the crew saved her, but she was repaired. These ships are SO expensive to build, it take a lot to render them a total loss (unless they are near the end of their natural lives anyway)

I think you refer to HMS Nottingham, which did that near Australia - it was shipped back and repaired because it had recently has a refit, and the cost of fitting all the advanced electronics to a non-updated T42 was deemed more expensive than repairing Nottingham

[Not_a_boffin]

Originally Posted by Jumping_Jack

Love the bit in the footage where the Frigate suddenly lurches and a the tugs back off rapido! Definitely a 'WHOOOAA!' moment!

That is the point where the ship has passed the point of vanishing stability and had it not been pushed aground, would have rolled right over. It's likely due to flooding right astern where the waterplane is lost (you can see the bubbling astern as air is forced out of the compartments). That raking damage looks longer than she is designed to survive - hopefully no-one trapped in the berthing compartments there.

That's a very expensive mishap and will be a feature on ship stability courses for years to come.

[Bull at a Gate]

Pettinger93, HMS Nottingham ran aground near Lord Howe Island (population 400) not Norfolk Island (population 1800 and not nearly as beautiful).

[Just This Once...]

The ship's driver seemed to have done a better job of beaching the boat than the tugs achieved. Quite a dynamic task for all concerned.

[TowerDog]

Originally Posted by Asturias56

I think they only have 5 and 1 is maybe laid up or in deep maintenance

not funny when 20% of your Navy goes south...........

Uh, no.
The Norwegian Navy’s consist of 70 vessels, not 5..

[Union Jack]

Originally Posted by TowerDog

Uh, no.
The Norwegian Navy’s consist of 70 vessels, not 5..

....and since five of their Fleet are classed as frigates, despite being regarded as destroyers by virtue of their size, eyes and, sadly, HELGE INGSTAD, can stop rolling.

Jack

[msbbarratt]

Originally Posted by Bull at a Gate

Pettinger93, HMS Nottingham ran aground near Lord Howe Island (population 400) not Norfolk Island (population 1800 and not nearly as beautiful).

About 2/3 of the bottom of Nottingham was ripped open, massive flooding everywhere. Story I heard was that as the ship bounced over the rock she'd hit at 30knots, the one compartment that got missed out was the Ward Room Pantry, which stayed dry. So the port, stilton and crackers were OK. The Captain, who had only just come back on board and was reaching the bridge as the collision occurred, took command and made a fast decision to use engine power to drag her backwards off the rock, whilst power was still available. She'd not have survived if left see sawing on the rock. Two big Olympuses drowned saving the ship.

I saw the pictures looking down into the engine room; basically you couldn't because the water came up to the very top. Absolute miracle she didn't sink, due entirely to the damage control efforts of the crew, who didn't hear the Abandon Ship pipe because by then all the electrics were dead. So they carried on and ended up saving the ship Australian Navy helped out with consolidation, rapid supply of pumps, etc.

The transport back to Pompey was let initially to a Dutch salvage firm who were the cheapest because they were going to sub it out to a Chinese firm. MoD told them to think again...

[Bing]

the one compartment that got missed out was the Ward Room Pantry,

You'd hope so, that's on 1 deck, for that to flood the hull would have to have been completely submerged.

[India Four Two]

Warning, thread drift.

I wondered who Helge Ingstad is/was and I looked him up:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helge_Ingstad

What a remarkable person. He certainly crammed a lot of adventures into his life, including being the 1st Governor of Erik the Red's Land.

[DirtyProp]

Seems that wiki has already been updated and reporting 7 crews as injured. Wish them a speedy recovery hoping that they were nothing serious, and quite relieved there were no casualties.

Now, could someone please explain to an ignoramus like meself how could a military ship with allegedly plenty of fancy boxes hit a boat the size of a hill?
Thanks in advance.

[Fareastdriver]

They must have done an exchange tour with the US Navy.

[Bing]

Originally Posted by DirtyProp

Now, could someone please explain to an ignoramus like meself how could a military ship with allegedly plenty of fancy boxes hit a boat the size of a hill?
Thanks in advance.

Well here're two ways USS McCain and Fitzgerald accident reports. Generally although it's all happening in relatively slow motion, so are any reactions so by the time you realise the other ship isn't doing what you expect it's a bit too late.

[WE Branch Fanatic]

Originally Posted by DirtyProp

Seems that wiki has already been updated and reporting 7 crews as injured. Wish them a speedy recovery hoping that they were nothing serious, and quite relieved there were no casualties.

Now, could someone please explain to an ignoramus like meself how could a military ship with allegedly plenty of fancy boxes hit a boat the size of a hill?
Thanks in advance.

The pictures show her down at the stern. She was stationary at the time of the incident according to the local media, so she did not hit anything, she was struck by the Maltese flagged tanker. 'Rammed' was the term some media outlets used.

Interestingly, the anti NATO Russian agitprop and misinformation started straight away, claiming damage to her bow.

[NutLoose]

Slight thread drift, Nottingham recovery plus eng pics etc

BBC NEWS | UK | England | In pictures: Recovery of HMS Nottingham


http://www.polycad.co.uk/downloads/35bole.pdf

[Asturias56]

Apparently both ships were talking to each other and the tanker kept asking the warship what they intended only to be told the Navy had it all under control......

[MPN11]

oops ... apparently.

Contradicting post #37, of course [the source, not the poster!]