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Old 8th Aug 2018, 09:47
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Originally Posted by kenparry
No.

Detached to a base in Italy.
It was the Typhoons that went to Italy as I recall ken (GDC)?
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They didn’t trust the tube provided for the use of, due to icing. One would have thought any ice would have melted fairly quickly!
A piece of p**s then.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 10:11
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Research.

I love it when people state facts that really aren’t.

It honestly doesn’t take much to research these things and give a correct answer.

The following took me twelve seconds to find:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ellamy

Précis - multiple GR4s and Typhoons deployed to Italy. GR4s also operated from Marham.

As for long range FJ sorties, they are not very comfortable. The Jag cockpit was small and there was no autopilot. Having a wee was emotional. Eating was ok because you were never really high enough to have to worry about taking your mask off.

I haven’t flown Typhoon or Tornado but they certainly appear to be marginally more comfortable with more space and an autopilot.

My biggest fear was falling asleep. Our US cousins have no such problems.

BV
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 10:25
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I wonder what the record for single seat pee bag use is? One of our guys (now sadly departed) once bought in three full ones after an epic trip to Oman in the mighty hovering war budgie, dropped them on the counter and started to mooch off. Three! I politely decline the offer and returned them to him quoting nil returns 🤣.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 10:38
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Sorties of that length in the V Force (Victor tankers in my case) were not unknown. The rear crew could leave their seats although there was little point as there was nowhere to go, but the two pilots were stuck in their bang seats for the duration so were in no better a position than the FJ crews who might be accompanying them. Possible to put the pins in and get out I suppose, but there would have been little point.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 10:46
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Trailing some Harrier GR3s back across the Pond from Goose, as we reached UK airspace the controller started being rather terse with one of our receivers in loose formation as his height was wandering a little.

"Look mate, single engine, single pilot, no autopilot and I'm trying to have a pee - I'm doing my best!" came the reply....
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 11:00
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The Lightning; 23 Sqn tanked from Leuchars to Toronto, Also direct to Ankara only using U.K. based tankers. Return via Izmir to rendezvous with the U.K. tankers off Italy (eventually), some Lightnings diverted to Wattisham.

Did 74 Squadron reposition to Singapore direct? Rumour that one overwing tank arrived full on Leuchars fuel.

Pee bag with sponge. Sandwiches in the ‘B’ scope visor.

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Old 8th Aug 2018, 11:07
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Javelin certainly deployed to the Far East 1-1 with a Valiants so long legs El Adem Aden Gan Butterworth
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 11:07
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Have flown in a Victor for over 3 hours, like TTN says not much room to move about.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 11:31
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Ascension to Coningsby in F4 8.50hrs 7 tanking slots. Southern QRA 6.50hrs & 5.45hrs. Never could get through the immersion suit to use a pee bag!
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 12:14
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Immersion suits are water tight....but it makes for soggy socks and yellow toes!
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 12:20
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I believe that any Lancaster/Halifax etc pilots that annoyed the groundcrew could sometimes end up with a knot tied in their pee tube.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 13:23
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Rumour that one overwing tank arrived full on Leuchars fuel.
Good rumour but impossible.

The F6 Lightning couldn't take off with full overwings. They would fill during in-flight refuelling.
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Spare a thought for the mighty Piper Warrior warrior who having filled his bottle up, ( carried along for the purpose ) still requiring to go, so decided to empty the said bottle out of the DV window, much to the chargrin of his friend in the back who copped the lot...fair play he cleaned up the aircraft, his friend however was not amused.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 14:08
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The B2 round trips from the US to Libya were around 30 hours, also in a bang seat.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 14:53
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Originally Posted by 212man
The B2 round trips from the US to Libya were around 30 hours, also in a bang seat.
Well, yes, but the B-2 also has a camp bed, proper (albeit tiny) toilet & small galley for those long missions.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 15:13
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Originally Posted by JG54
Well, yes, but the B-2 also has a camp bed, proper (albeit tiny) toilet & small galley for those long missions.
Fair enough. I’ve only see cockpit photos which don’t immediately suggest that to be the case.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 15:16
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Dook, #34, my overwing tanks were always full at take off, minus any leaks.
(if The Lightning didn’t leak then it wasn’t full)
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 16:42
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Spare a thought for the mighty Piper Warrior warrior who having filled his bottle up, ( carried along for the purpose ) still requiring to go, so decided to empty the said bottle out of the DV window, much to the chargrin of his friend in the back who copped the lot...fair play he cleaned up the aircraft, his friend however was not amused.
Similar tale Nut. Took two bods up to Manchester in a Seneca. Got delayed out of Elstree, so they decided to drink. Not sure where, but they picked up a bottle of Single Malt in a presentation tin. 30 mins into the flight one of them was desperate, so he took the malt from the tin and peed in that. Alas said tin wasn't water tight and it came out all over his feet. Luckily his chum had a strong polythene bag and it was placed in that, so problem solved. He then hang it on the coat hook. On landing long and fast with a 767 up our behind, we bounced .Said tin and it contents spilled out over the pair of them! We taxied to the GA terminal, where they went to clean up and they then spent 30mins cleaning the aircraft.
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I remember flying No Fly Zone enforcement missions over Iraq (operation Southern Watch, etc) after Gulf War I. A long transit to feet dry in theater, then several refuelings feet dry, following by a long transit back to the carrier for night recovery with piddle packs stuffed here and there and everywhere. And those Go Pills!! (stay awake stimulant drugs)

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