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Old 27th Jul 2018, 15:47
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Two very interesting points you raise there BEagle.
1. Centre of Lincoln is terrible, the Traffic Light sequencing is managed by a creche at best, the highlight of any day being a vehicle breakdown on Silver Street, when 'Op GRIDLOCK' comes into force.
2. Also, you mention the 'Missing Link', - if only Darwin had transited from Shrewsbury to Lincoln, he would have saved years in attempting to seek a solution traveling round the globe...
If you're planning a trip from Nottingham to Market Rasen, put Inverness in the Sat-Nav, It'll be as quick.
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One of the biggest problems with Lincoln area traffic came about because of the total confusion when the Humber Bridge was built. The plan was to dual from the bridge all the way down to the A1 via the A15. Most of the land was bought but then the government stepped in and said no, as they were intending to build an East coast motorway linking the bridge to the top of the M11. Two years later this plan was cancelled which left the bridge as a bridge to nowhere with the increased traffic having to use single carriageways to the A1 and South. I believe the East coast motorway plan is back on the cards again.
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Old 27th Jul 2018, 17:52
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I learn that to walk around the perimeter fence is 15 miles. Can that be right?
A quick measure and it looks to be just under 6 miles around the perimeter.....?
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Old 27th Jul 2018, 18:13
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Reds and greens, Sat nav was the clue. Just done a similar journey. There were several C roads paralleling the main routes with relatively little traffic. That is one advantage of Lincolnshire, if you know the hidden routes you can often average over 30mph 😆
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Old 27th Jul 2018, 19:21
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Reds and greens, Sat nav was the clue. Just done a similar journey. There were several C roads paralleling the main routes with relatively little traffic. That is one advantage of Lincolnshire, if you know the hidden routes you can often average over 30mph 😆
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Old 30th Jul 2018, 13:27
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Someone must have been telling porkies!!
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Old 30th Jul 2018, 22:38
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Surely the end of L-o-O also means Topcliffe airfield (recently resurfaced) will be left to wither away too.
Don't be daft mate, they have thought of that already. Topcliffe will stay open as Valley's Texan RLG and they will bus controllers in daily (as they do now from L-o-O). You forget that bean-counters are involved in this decision so something as ridiculous as that cannot be ruled out.

As for reds home (however short their continued existence is) requires clear airspace, good runways, suitable hangarage and modern-ish ATC facilities. Isn't Linton's tower the newest one we have left? Any-hoo, May I join the others and suggest Linton as that location as home for the reds. Keeping it open long enough for the powers that be to realise that putting all pilot training into the one basket is not going to work.

Also if Linton closes then they will need to update SSR for Leeming because, if memory serves me correctly, the SSR head is at L-o-O.
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Old 1st Aug 2018, 14:47
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From a few years ago...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-...shire-26342290
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Old 6th Aug 2018, 16:29
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Had lunch today with a retired electrical engineer who worked on the Bomber bases. He recalled an issue 30 years ago when the closure of Scampton was muted, not the A15 question but the underground pipeline installation.

I know bomber bases had an early hydrant fuel system installed when the airfields were reconstructed in the 50s but these were never, to my knowledge, used. I was told they had gone rusty before being brought in to service.

He thought only 7 bases were so equipped. I know Waddington was and guess the other main bases were too. He thought that the remediation cost had led to its retention then.
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Had lunch today with a retired electrical engineer who worked on the Bomber bases. He recalled an issue 30 years ago when the closure of Scampton was muted, not the A15 question but the underground pipeline installation.

I know bomber bases had an early hydrant fuel system installed when the airfields were reconstructed in the 50s but these were never, to my knowledge, used. I was told they had gone rusty before being brought in to service.

He thought only 7 bases were so equipped. I know Waddington was and guess the other main bases were too. He thought that the remediation cost had led to its retention then.
I wondered about this, there is a rumour about up to 600 new builds on the airfield and along with all the other locals, Scampton Village, we wonder whether the "clean up" costs would make Scampton suitable for new housing. The old fuel pipeline, the old SSA and lots of other accidental spillages over the years. The other rumour is solar panels on the hard standings,with agricultural on the green bits.
In addition to the Reds relocating, I haven't seen anything about Hawker Hunter Aviation. They have a fair number of airframes on site, wonder what their plans are?
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Dilapidated

anybody who has driven/cycled/walked past the main gate at Scampton over the last few years should not be surprised by this - you only have to look at the sorry state of the barrack block fronting the A15 to the North of the gate to see that it has effectively been left to rot - I dare say if the perimeter fence and guardroom were not close by, the windows would have been smashed too. Hardly a suitable advertisement for the home of the Reds....
Many a happy evening spent ten pin league bowling, I wonder if the bowl survives?
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Old 6th Aug 2018, 20:01
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Originally Posted by Trumpet_trousers
anybody who has driven/cycled/walked past the main gate at Scampton over the last few years should not be surprised by this - you only have to look at the sorry state of the barrack block fronting the A15 to the North of the gate to see that it has effectively been left to rot - I dare say if the perimeter fence and guardroom were not close by, the windows would have been smashed too. Hardly a suitable advertisement for the home of the Reds....
Many a happy evening spent ten pin league bowling, I wonder if the bowl survives?
Every time I go past there, I think of my two and a bit years in the block closest to the A15 and Bowl/Swimming pool end, top floor, end room overlooking A15, I also spent many a time in both the bowl/pool, good times long gone.
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 06:45
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Didn't the bowling alley get relocated to RAF Cranwell?
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 06:59
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I did tests of the McMurdo light on that pool. Showed it worked immediately on immersion if you took the plugs out before entering the water and could be dried out after.

resulted in all the lamps having plugs removed as SOP
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 08:15
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I thought Linton-on-ouse must be about ready to close when I was there a few weeks ago - the village pub (College Arms) was closed and a fair number of houses in the village have been up for sale for some time.
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I understand that when ISS won the CRL contract they quickly closed most of the bowls as too difficult. Only Brize has AFAIK managed to stave off a full ISS takeover. (happy to hear of any more that survived)

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Old 30th Aug 2018, 13:48
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The Reds move to Wittering is looking more like a done deal according to a friend based there.
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Old 30th Aug 2018, 14:31
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Isn't the A1 dangerous enough as it is?
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The Reds move to Wittering is looking more like a done deal according to a friend based there.
I hope the MOD have got the lawyers ready (assuming the Dennis family are still resident) given the years of relative peace and quiet since the demise of the Harrier ....

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Shame about the bowls. Most were provided by the Nuffield Trust or Command Central Funds. On the Non Public desk at Brampton Command Accounts in the late 80s I was involved with staffing the bids for funding of a few of them
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