Stolen C-130: Well worth the long read.
There are 3 relevant questions that need to be asked and at least plausible answers provided.
1. Why shoot it down? The aircraft was heading into French airspace and the only area or site that might require it was stopped quickly is the French nuclear reprocessing plant at La Hogue. Anything else and it becomes a French problem and their decision.
2. Who would authorise the shoot down? It has to be a political decision, no serving officer would have authority to order engagement of an aircraft that represented no threat to the UK even if the US authorities requested it. It is just within the realms of possibility that they might accede to a French request to do so if they were unable to deal with the situation themselves. But it would almost certainly require US agreement.
3. How would the intercept be controlled and by what means would the authorisation to engage be promulgated and relayed to the interceptor? There’s now a long chain stretching back to Wattisham, High Wycombe, MoD, Foreign Office, West Drayton, CRC et al. That’s an awful lot of people in the know and this is a quite exceptional event.
BTW I don’t believe in Conspiracy Theories but readily subscribe to the C**k Up Theory.
Answers on a postcard please.
YS
1. Why shoot it down? The aircraft was heading into French airspace and the only area or site that might require it was stopped quickly is the French nuclear reprocessing plant at La Hogue. Anything else and it becomes a French problem and their decision.
2. Who would authorise the shoot down? It has to be a political decision, no serving officer would have authority to order engagement of an aircraft that represented no threat to the UK even if the US authorities requested it. It is just within the realms of possibility that they might accede to a French request to do so if they were unable to deal with the situation themselves. But it would almost certainly require US agreement.
3. How would the intercept be controlled and by what means would the authorisation to engage be promulgated and relayed to the interceptor? There’s now a long chain stretching back to Wattisham, High Wycombe, MoD, Foreign Office, West Drayton, CRC et al. That’s an awful lot of people in the know and this is a quite exceptional event.
BTW I don’t believe in Conspiracy Theories but readily subscribe to the C**k Up Theory.
Answers on a postcard please.
YS
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Dutch or Belgian Hunters ( I cannot remember which after 55 years) were definitely fitted with Sidewinder air to air missiles.
I know this, as I was tasked with removing the rails from the aircraft wings when they were returned to Hawkers for refurbishment and resale.
Tony
I know this, as I was tasked with removing the rails from the aircraft wings when they were returned to Hawkers for refurbishment and resale.
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There are 3 relevant questions that need to be asked and at least plausible answers provided
BEagle
What's Groombucket up to these days ? Been a while.......
It really doesn't surprise me that Groombucket had the sense to decline to be interviewed about this bolleaux….
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
BTW I don’t believe in Conspiracy Theories but readily subscribe to the C**k Up Theory.
Personally I have filed the C130 shoot-down story along with the Kennedy assassination/fake moon landing/UFO abduction stories. I suppose there is a whole section of society who believe that "they" are behind everything, and I doubt if they will ever be convinced by more mundane facts
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Another thing that doesn't sound right... Did Hunters ever do Q? If not, how did it get in the air so quickly?
Unless the Hunter happened to be already airborne in the area and was asked to divert for a look?
Unless the Hunter happened to be already airborne in the area and was asked to divert for a look?
I wonder what it is that gets people into the mindset that they would prefer an outlandish explanation for an event rather than the more credible (but possible boring) one. No doubt psychologists have researched this phenomenon and published papers on the subject
Personally I have filed the C130 shoot-down story along with the Kennedy assassination/fake moon landing/UFO abduction stories. I suppose there is a whole section of society who believe that "they" are behind everything, and I doubt if they will ever be convinced by more mundane facts
Personally I have filed the C130 shoot-down story along with the Kennedy assassination/fake moon landing/UFO abduction stories. I suppose there is a whole section of society who believe that "they" are behind everything, and I doubt if they will ever be convinced by more mundane facts
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Fred J****es of fond memory (all his career a DFGA pilot) was reputedly night-flying at Tengah while hiding in the Compass Swing base, but making the appropriate r/t calls
Very interesting ORAC - thanks. I have a chemtrails believer in my family and nothing I can say will shake her from her belief. She is of above average intelligence, but that seems to apply to some people who believe in the most bizarre theories.
Anyway I am going to take more notice of my sandwiches as I eat them from now on!
Anyway I am going to take more notice of my sandwiches as I eat them from now on!
Very interesting ORAC - thanks. I have a chemtrails believer in my family and nothing I can say will shake her from her belief. She is of above average intelligence, but that seems to apply to some people who believe in the most bizarre theories.
Anyway I am going to take more notice of my sandwiches as I eat them from now on!
Anyway I am going to take more notice of my sandwiches as I eat them from now on!
Contrail Science ? The Science and Pseudoscience of Contrails and Chemtrails
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Tankertrashnav,
Read up on False Pattern Recognition and Apophenia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia
https://theiowaatheist.blog/2018/01/...nd-pareidolia/
http://www.slate.com/articles/health...l_beliefs.html
Read up on False Pattern Recognition and Apophenia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia
https://theiowaatheist.blog/2018/01/...nd-pareidolia/
http://www.slate.com/articles/health...l_beliefs.html
