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RAF Beards...?

Old 12th Aug 2019, 14:53
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Beards only look right on sailors and Action Man.

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Old 12th Aug 2019, 17:03
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49313406


So now its out there, will this mean the Navy can have moustaches?

The Army will still need to write to Betty

Prince Harry was given special permission from the Queen to keep his beard during his wedding as he chose to wear his Army uniform during the ceremony.
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Old 13th Aug 2019, 09:08
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Oh well, further degradation of standards. (Don't bother to harangue as it's water off a duck's back)

Perhaps a measure of how difficult recruitment to HM Forces is nowadays.

I can't imagine why . . .
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Old 13th Aug 2019, 11:48
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Grief, it will be tattoos next. Ah, think that's been discussed before.
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 15:26
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Different guy. No wings but definitely looks related

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Old 14th Aug 2019, 16:36
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Different guy. No wings but definitely looks related

I did not know Edward Smith was Royalty.

Must have been revealed in a new conspiracy theory about his ship that I haven't read yet.
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 16:53
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I have to assume recruiting and retention was going fine in the 60s, otherwise we* would have been allowed shoulder-length hair back then?


* blokes, obviously!
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 18:32
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[QUOTE]I have to assume recruiting and retention was going fine in the 60s, otherwise we* would have been allowed shoulder-length hair back then?[QUOTE]

Just reminded me of an occasion when we were sitting in the mess dining room at Akrotiri having breakfast when 3 very long haired types in flying suits came and sat at an adjacent table. I thought our very stuffy squadron CO was going to have a stroke, as long hair was a bÍte noire of his. He was just getting up to administer a huge bollocking to the offending blokes when one of our number pointed out that they were a civvy Canberra crew, who I think flew target facilities aircraft for the Navy from Exeter
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 19:10
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Nice, TTN.

I confess during my quasi-civvy times at NATS I may have exceeded the usual RAF norms. A bit ‘Beatle’ could be a good accusation!
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 19:49
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I have to assume recruiting and retention was going fine in the 60s, otherwise we* would have been allowed shoulder-length hair back then?


* blokes, obviously!
Quite true, I remember, in 1967, as a young JT at Wittering, piling into my old Ford Zephyr with 5 others and driving across to Spalding to see Jimi Hendrix and Pink Floyd. Must have looked total prats in kaftans and flares with regulation haircuts
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 20:48
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Quite true, I remember, in 1967, as a young JT at Wittering, piling into my old Ford Zephyr with 5 others and driving across to Spalding to see Jimi Hendrix and Pink Floyd. Must have looked total prats in kaftans and flares with regulation haircuts
Oh, pass the eye bleach! I know exactly how you felt, but by 67 I was at tengah, and close-shorn. It was the heat, you know!.
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 21:12
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Airmen leave because they're not allowed a beard? What! Perhaps they should grow some b****cks instead. God-knows how they'd have survived in the old Number 2 uniforms and had to share a billet & make bed packs once a year for the AOC's inspection. I can feel the snowflakes melting as I type...
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 23:49
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Relaaaaaaaax...

I donít think anyone is suggesting that men feel unable to serve because they are not allowed facial fluff.

The change to the rules is a great example of how the RAF feels able to move with the times a little.

Facial hair is perfectly smart and standards are not slipping because beards are now permitted.

Remember. Itís not wrong. Itís just different.

For the record, I have flown a fast jet whilst adorned with a beard for the past two years and the world has not stopped turning.

May I please repeat. Times have changed. This is not the 1950ís any more. For better or worse.

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Old 15th Aug 2019, 01:21
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Yes, but you are a Viking !!!
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Old 15th Aug 2019, 07:54
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Do the bearded folk have to cover the beard in Vaseline (other products are available!) before donning a face-wellie?
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Old 15th Aug 2019, 08:17
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Presumably someone will produce guidance? Otherwise the RAF could find itself with a few ZZ Top lookalikes...

Pony tails next?
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Old 15th Aug 2019, 08:43
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Originally Posted by Eclan View Post
Different guy. No wings but definitely looks related

Gosh! Harry's aged a bit
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Old 15th Aug 2019, 11:35
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Presumably someone will produce guidance? Otherwise the RAF could find itself with a few ZZ Top lookalikes...
They have. And we won't.
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Old 15th Aug 2019, 21:24
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A question or two for those in opposition to face fungus.

Are there any specific triumphs in the RAFís 100 year history that can be attributed to lack of beards, or where a beard would have eroded the chance of success?

Are there any obvious ways in the 100 years to come that the presence of a beard might spell disaster?
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Old 15th Aug 2019, 21:46
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stevef,

Bedpacks once a year!!! Used to be every day when I joined, not a great problem but it did not make us any better/efficient!

Times they are a'changing!

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