Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Military Aviation
Reload this Page >

BBC coverage of RAF 100 years

Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

BBC coverage of RAF 100 years

Old 27th Mar 2018, 10:08
  #101 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 1,074
Received 16 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by roving
Of course the important role of women in the ATA during WWII should be promoted.

The idea that only men should fly fast jets reflects the insecurity of men in British society, not women.
You missed the point.

The women 'promoted' during these PR jazz fests are overwhelmingly presented as half (and sometimes more) of the WWII workforce. It is a false image, but one that suits modern MOD PR guff.

And men form the huge majority of aircrew because we are biologically suited to it.
Training Risky is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 10:10
  #102 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: One Three Seven, Disco Heaven.
Age: 65
Posts: 2,521
Likes: 0
Received 28 Likes on 15 Posts
What is it with all the lanyards? Just about everyone at Lossie was wearing one. Everytime we had cut backs in the 70's and 80's, the old joke would come up, "with all the cuts, we could save money on ID cards, as everyone would know everyone else".

Last edited by Dan Gerous; 27th Mar 2018 at 10:23. Reason: speeling
Dan Gerous is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 10:31
  #103 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: UK.
Posts: 4,390
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Watched our recording last night and, uncharacteristically, have nothing to add to the foregoing - except to ask: "Where was the Argosy?"
Basil is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 10:35
  #104 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: over the rainbow
Age: 75
Posts: 562
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Training Risky,

Women currently occupy the roles of:

Monarch
Prime Minister
Home Secretary
President of the Supreme Court
Metropolitan Police Commissioner

add

Head of the Crown Prosecution Service


It will not be long before one is appointed CAS.
roving is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 12:19
  #105 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Under the clouds now
Age: 86
Posts: 2,498
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Sod the top jobs, I still want to be an engine (steam) driver
brakedwell is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 12:26
  #106 (permalink)  
Cunning Artificer
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: The spiritual home of DeHavilland
Age: 76
Posts: 3,127
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I enjoyed it and I was especially pleased with the inclusion of Lord Trenchard's Apprentice scheme - one of the two bedrocks of the early RAF.

As for the rest of the UK armed forces, there is a tradition of not showing any respect for any of the other services to their faces, specifically when the public are present. However it is only a tradition because we have such a great respect for the other services in the UK, and we are engaging in a topic known as "banter".
Join your local Armed Forces Veterans Breakfast Club. Our Welwyn-Hatfield Branch are having a "Wear Blue for the RAF" breakfast on this Sunday morning's regular meeting. We'll still have all the usual inter-service banter of course. One can expect nothing less.
Blacksheep is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 12:46
  #107 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 1,074
Received 16 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by roving
Training Risky,

Women currently occupy the roles of:

Monarch
Prime Minister
Home Secretary
President of the Supreme Court
Metropolitan Police Commissioner

add

Head of the Crown Prosecution Service


It will not be long before one is appointed CAS.
Sorry to burst your bubble old chap but not one of these appointments were on merit:

Monarch (Hereditary)
Prime Minister (No sane man wanted to do it during Brexit. Also, she is RUBBISH!)
Home Secretary (Quota filling, she is also ineffective)
President of the Supreme Court (Quota filling, and a big fan of 'positive discrimination')
Metropolitan Police Commissioner (Quota filling, even after mangling up the Stockwell shooting)
Head of the Crown Prosecution Service (Don't even get me started...just read the rape mistrial cases)

CAS/CGS/1SL? (Only if a woman puts the hard yards in over 40 years and competes on merit.)
Training Risky is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 13:51
  #108 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: over the rainbow
Age: 75
Posts: 562
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Commandant of the College, Air Commodore Chris Luck said: “I hope that many of the young women who attended will be inspired to join the RAF and perhaps one of them will one day rise to become the Chief of the Air Staff.”
https://www.sleafordstandard.co.uk/n...-raf-1-6498747
roving is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 13:58
  #109 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Under the clouds now
Age: 86
Posts: 2,498
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
No comment.
Where’s me hat and coat
brakedwell is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 14:48
  #110 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: EGDL
Posts: 278
Received 3 Likes on 1 Post
Originally Posted by Flugplatz
Very surprised to hear that Sierra Leone Chinook Captain say that the crew were selected from singles/people without children!!

Did they know that they were selected on that basis, or was it just a clumsy way of saying volunteers were selected on that basis?
Also Untue. I went many times as a married man with 2 very young children.

Also not as a volunteer but tasked.
OKOC is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 14:54
  #111 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Cambridge
Posts: 667
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by OKOC
Also Untue. I went many times as a married man with 2 very young children.

Also not as a volunteer but tasked.
I think he was talking about the specific SF mission?
Treble one is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 15:29
  #112 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 658
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
With the focus on the Great War and it’s origins, I was bitterly disappointed that this great man didn’t get a mention

Monarch Man is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 15:57
  #113 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Bed
Posts: 335
Received 8 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by Basil
Watched our recording last night and, uncharacteristically, have nothing to add to the foregoing - except to ask: "Where was the Argosy?"
Still on the way in formation with the Belfast probably
sangiovese. is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 20:24
  #114 (permalink)  
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lincolnshire
Age: 80
Posts: 16,777
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by NutLoose
. . .higher command thought they would be jumping out of aircraft left right and centre . ..
In the 60s aircrew could do a number of into water parachute jumps. Bomber Command did not support this as 'you might bail out on a nuclear war mission.'
Pontius Navigator is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 20:35
  #115 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 5,222
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
It wouldn't be new. In the Book 'Fall of Fortresses' by Elmer Bendiner he mentioned the waist gunners that bailed out as they crossed the Dutch coast.

Can't blame them. Standing by an open hatch getting shot at.
Fareastdriver is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 22:42
  #116 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Grid ref confused
Age: 63
Posts: 793
Received 8 Likes on 5 Posts
TTN, Roving, and Training Risky, thanks for your comments on my ambiguity on the ATA perspective. They are accurate, pertinent and highlight the importance of gender and allied elements of the RAF. But these discussions are a red herring to the program and deserve a thread of their own. I was not referring to the gender or importance of the ATA, but on the fact that in a program of limited time and large subject matter, that a non-RAF element was given enough prominence when so many large swathes of RAF elements were ignored.
cynicalint is online now  
Old 27th Mar 2018, 23:20
  #117 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: SW England
Age: 77
Posts: 3,896
Received 16 Likes on 4 Posts
Good point cynicalint.

"Where was the Argosy?"
Still on the way in formation with the Belfast probably
Excellent
Tankertrashnav is offline  
Old 28th Mar 2018, 01:37
  #118 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: The Attic
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 2 Posts
Us Rocks were given a good stiff ignoring too.
sittingstress is offline  
Old 28th Mar 2018, 06:34
  #119 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: over the rainbow
Age: 75
Posts: 562
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just posted on the BBC website.

Taking to the skies in a RAF Tornado - BBC News
roving is offline  
Old 28th Mar 2018, 06:56
  #120 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Age: 54
Posts: 1,511
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
I had quite a jolt when it showed the old workshops at Halton.
As for general PCness I thought it was quite twaddle free for a beeb programme. No LGBT or race issues shoehorned in.
Good to see the Squippers featured (if only as background). That Typhoon kits moved on since I worked on the EF2000 development kit.
Tashengurt is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.