BBC coverage of RAF 100 years
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The Tornado flight is to be described on BBC Radio 4 Today programme at some point before 9.00am.
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For those that can replay the BBC Radio 4 Today from about 8.10am there follows 18 minutes about the Tornado and then a detailed discussion with Air Marshall Atha about the projected role of the RAF in space, under the water, the P-8 Poseidon and F-35 Lightning.
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For those that can replay the BBC Radio 4 Today from about 8.10am there follows 18 minutes about the Tornado and then a detailed discussion with Air Marshall Atha about the projected role of the RAF in space, under the water, the P-8 Poseidon and F-35 Lightning.
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I never had Martha Carnie down as a 'screaming girl' but that is just what she came across as this morning. One of the worst bits of PR (not to mention reporting!) that I have heard for ages. Why put someone with a total lack of aviation competence or knowledge in the back of a fast jet? First time I have known anyone scared by an airbrake.
Surely the RAF and BBC can make a better hash of a very important milestone.
GRRR!
Surely the RAF and BBC can make a better hash of a very important milestone.
GRRR!
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If one flicks back though the historical sections "flight" to an lengthy write-up in 1957, on the FEAF, the journalist describes being flown into Fort Langkap, a jungle strip, in a single pin. My dad, who was then flt cmdr of 267 Squadron in KL, was the pilot.
https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarch...fort%20langkap
Before they arrived at the fort my dad prepared (or rather tried to prepare) him for it, by telling him that on approach he would cut the power and they float down and then he would power-up just above the strip.
40 years later my dad was able to recall the "Oh my God" expletives from the journalist as it floated down.
Nothing changes.
https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarch...fort%20langkap
Before they arrived at the fort my dad prepared (or rather tried to prepare) him for it, by telling him that on approach he would cut the power and they float down and then he would power-up just above the strip.
40 years later my dad was able to recall the "Oh my God" expletives from the journalist as it floated down.
Nothing changes.
Yes, unfortunately very few reporters are capable of putting up a good performance in a FJ. Overall, her reporting was good I thought, although the description of Tornado GR1 being in it's operational element at 250' day VFR by Wg Cdr Heeps was lightweight. How about, Day/Night IMC 200', VFR 100' Strike/Attack.
As for AM Atha, he was shaky on the Space/Russia/Cyber stuff. What is wrong with clearly describing GPS jamming? It is widely understood, and that is why it is done! Methinks he was trying hard not to let some Int slip out, while making Joe public worried about WW3.
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For those that can replay the BBC Radio 4 Today from about 8.10am there follows 18 minutes about the Tornado and then a detailed discussion with Air Marshall Atha about the projected role of the RAF in space, under the water, the P-8 Poseidon and F-35 Lightning.
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Yes there was discussion about the F-35 later with one of the test pilots (I think), it was explained that the F-35 needed a bomb bay -- a novelty these days, because the bombs are not "stealth"
I never had Martha Carnie down as a 'screaming girl' but that is just what she came across as this morning. One of the worst bits of PR (not to mention reporting!) that I have heard for ages. Why put someone with a total lack of aviation competence or knowledge in the back of a fast jet? First time I have known anyone scared by an airbrake.
Surely the RAF and BBC can make a better hash of a very important milestone.
GRRR!
Surely the RAF and BBC can make a better hash of a very important milestone.
GRRR!
As an aside, re-read your book the other day Mogwi - now that was not a dull experience...!
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My God, you lot are a tough crowd. I just watched the video and what the hell was wrong with it?
What I saw was a well spoken journalist who managed two hours in the back of a Tonka and still had a smile on her face. Most pax feel ropey far quicker than that and wouldn’t be able to talk as well as she did.
I’d say Heepsy did a great job of his sound bites as well.
I’m not really sure what else you could expect from a 2.5 minute news clip.
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What I saw was a well spoken journalist who managed two hours in the back of a Tonka and still had a smile on her face. Most pax feel ropey far quicker than that and wouldn’t be able to talk as well as she did.
I’d say Heepsy did a great job of his sound bites as well.
I’m not really sure what else you could expect from a 2.5 minute news clip.
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I think the Jesus Mary comment should have been cut, out of respect to others. But what I found strange is a reputable BBC reporter interviewing a pilot while flying at low level at 250ft, there is nothing wrong will patter, but perhaps SM should have asked isn't very distracting having a conversation at low level in the same way as mobiles for car drivers. So much for a sterile environment Hopefully in the light of recent events the front seat had command over the rear seat. If SM didn.t throw up after two hous in a fast jet, she did better than most.
The SM backseat ride started off annoying me but by the end I thought it was good PR and good journalism.
The RAF has played this Centenary well. Bravo. Here’s to the next 100 years.
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The RAF has played this Centenary well. Bravo. Here’s to the next 100 years.
WWW
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If OC 9 Sqn can fly a Tornado and put up with the constant whining of a navigator I’m sure he can cope with the questions of a journalist.
That is banter by the way before anyone gets too upset.
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PS. The soundtrack is an overlay by the way. Who knows when she asked the questions? Could have been at ML.
That is banter by the way before anyone gets too upset.
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PS. The soundtrack is an overlay by the way. Who knows when she asked the questions? Could have been at ML.
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I think the Jesus Mary comment should have been cut, out of respect to others.
Good for them for doing it; mind you, an RAF officer referring to the F-35 as an airplane...?
I can hear a certain Douglas Bader snorting profanely...
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Good for them for doing it; mind you, an RAF officer referring to the F-35 as an airplane...? I can hear a certain Douglas Bader snorting profanely...[/QUOTE]
He only referred to the F-35 momentarily
Good for them for doing it; mind you, an RAF officer referring to the F-35 as an airplane...?
I can hear a certain Douglas Bader snorting profanely...[/QUOTE]He only referred to the F-35 momentarily
Pity the noise cancellation seems to remove just about all background apart from some electronic breakthrough.
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the description of Tornado GR1 being in it's operational element at 250' day VFR by Wg Cdr Heeps was lightweight. How about, Day/Night IMC 200', VFR 100' Strike/Attack.