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HMS Argyll completes Sea Ceptor firings

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Old 26th Dec 2017, 23:11
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Originally Posted by Octane
https://youtu.be/XjwZiF4CnAQ

He perhaps owns the world record for the 7 metre sprint?
Not to mention the world record for the speed at which a pair of underpants can be soiled!

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Old 26th Dec 2017, 23:25
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Hi Rhino,

What mystifies me is why the hell he was strolling around on that aft deck in the first place. Surely before a missile launch (assuming it was a test) there would have been briefings, announcements and warning sirens/ bells whatever beforehand?! If it was a combat situation I thought he would have been wearing combat anti flash gear etc. But he just looked like someone sneaking a ciggy with obviously absolutely no idea what was going on or about to happen... Odd!
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Old 27th Dec 2017, 09:43
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Originally Posted by Octane
Hi Rhino,
What mystifies me is why the hell he was strolling around on that aft deck in the first place. Surely before a missile launch (assuming it was a test) there would have been briefings, announcements and warning sirens/ bells whatever beforehand?!
That is exactly the nature of accidents. They happen because something went differently than planned/briefed/trained.
Here, someone was obviously on the 'loo during the briefing...

Will have left a profound and lasting impression on said individual for sure.
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Old 27th Dec 2017, 17:20
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I have personal experience of a safety briefing planned work involving an active high pressure/temperature piece of equipment.

Just before we started the work we heard a loud & persistent banging noise coming from the depths of the equipment - we found someone trying to dislodge a valve with a sledgehammer - had he succeeded he would have opened an 11,000 psi 250C gas system 3 ft in front of him...........................

As you can imagine the Elf & Safety guys went ape... we were able to show that not only did we have his signature that he'd attended the briefing & understood it but there was a video of it him clearly paying attention with everyone else.. He wasn't mad, a member of ISIS or low IQ - in fact he was an experienced, well regarded hand.......

All we could get out of him was that he didn't think what he was doing had anything to with the procedure and "he thought it would save time later"
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Old 28th Dec 2017, 11:33
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Nice to see the Royal Navy can launch something from their frigates.

My understanding is they are all broke and won't work in warm seas.

My son is an officer on HMS Westminster which has spent the last year trekking back and forth through the Irish Sea and the Channel trying to get all the kit to work.

Meanwhile our newest carrier has sprung a leak.

How did we manage Normandy?
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Old 28th Dec 2017, 12:10
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Originally Posted by Jay Sata
Nice to see the Royal Navy can launch something from their frigates.

My understanding is they are all broke and won't work in warm seas.

My son is an officer on HMS Westminster which has spent the last year trekking back and forth through the Irish Sea and the Channel trying to get all the kit to work.

Meanwhile our newest carrier has sprung a leak.

How did we manage Normandy?
Would that be the HMS WESTMINSTER that had just finished a refit period, and was on trials, the express intent of which is to find out which bits of kit don’t work?
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Old 28th Dec 2017, 14:07
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Or the carrier that hasnt 'sprung a leak' but is merely experiencing the same thing that every boat or ship built in history of mankind experiences?
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Old 29th Dec 2017, 11:25
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Originally Posted by Jay Sata
...Meanwhile our newest carrier has sprung a leak.

How did we manage Normandy?
QNLZ's 'leak' hardly merited national headlines. Her stern gland has been watertight while alongside and only allowed "up to" 200 litres of water per hour to enter while the ship was being thrown around during sea trials. Even unfettered, this would still have taken around 48 years to flood her entirely.

This is the tiniest submersible electrical pond pump I could find on the internet. Funnily enough, it can shift 200 litres per hour:


Small petrol-driven man-portable pumps the size of a lawn mower can pump 66,000 litres per hour (i.e. 1100 litres per minute). Ironically, QNLZ can convert sea water into fresh water at a rate of 22,500 litres per hour (540 tonnes per day).

If there is a guarantee defect, it will be fixed by the builder at its own cost in due course along with any others.
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If it wasn't caused by operating negligence of course.
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Originally Posted by glad rag
If it wasn't caused by operating negligence of course.
HAve you ever been to sea?
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Old 30th Dec 2017, 06:44
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It is a common problem on new ships of any sort - especially military vessels where the stresses and strains on the prop-shaft that can't be accurately modeled until they are on trials.

Embarrasing - a bit - serious - no
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Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry
Embarrasing - a bit...
I shouldn't imagine so, if something analogous in general terms to nothing more than a dripping tap was the only engineering snafu of note encountered during sea trials, then I suspect embarrassment was far from how the crew and ship's builders felt...

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