David Davis demanded RAF plane for Brexit talks.
Like it or not Brexit is happening so let's give David Davis everything he needs to make things easier for him to negotiate the very best deal possible, in comparison with the "Divorce bill" the cost of RAF Air transport is fractions of peanuts.
......and since you are prattling on about the German concept of plebiscite prohibition, take a look at the Swiss system, which is such an integral part of the hugely successful, peaceful, and prosperous country.
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A 52/48 split based on lies misdirection and bull**** is not what I'd call democratic
I can't be @rsed to find some of Gideon Osborne's (yes - that's his real name) more dire predictions.... err ......none of which seem to have happened.
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Other than that since the referendum the UK growth has gone from top to bottom of the G7 list and the PSBR has risen exponentially whilst the £ has fallen by more than one-fifth -- leading to high inflation on imported food, to say nothing of the Government having lost its majority in the HoC and faces the real prospect of losing the next election to the most left wing Government in the history of Parliament.
Well I am no fan of Davis either in terms of politics or competence although he does, rather belatedly seemed to have learned that all this 'European Nonsense' isnt nonsense and isnt straightforward.
However he is the minister responsible for something very important and an RAF jet seems fine to me in these circumstances.. Of course if Boris or Gove are involved I suggest the Airlander as singularly appropriate.
As for all this idiocy about Lancasters and Germany that sort of attiude got us into this Brexit mess, it was over 70 years ago who is the better off nation nowadays
However he is the minister responsible for something very important and an RAF jet seems fine to me in these circumstances.. Of course if Boris or Gove are involved I suggest the Airlander as singularly appropriate.
As for all this idiocy about Lancasters and Germany that sort of attiude got us into this Brexit mess, it was over 70 years ago who is the better off nation nowadays
I doesn't matter whether you like/dislike Davis or what your views are on Brexit. He is a senior government minister and should use the appropriate transport which I thought would be, in this case, 32.
I can't be @rsed to find some of Gideon Osborne's (yes - that's his real name) more dire predictions.... err ......none of which seem to have happened.
......and since you are prattling on about the German concept of plebiscite prohibition, take a look at the Swiss system, which is such an integral part of the hugely successful, peaceful, and prosperous country.
Perhaps this could be our post-Brexit model of government? I'm sure the great British public will appreciate the importance of airborne maritime patrol and all the rest of it.
(Managed to get it back to military aviation there, just).
They haven't happened yet, because we haven't left yet.
Ah, the Swiss system https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...A4H05920140518
Perhaps this could be our post-Brexit model of government? I'm sure the great British public will appreciate the importance of airborne maritime patrol and all the rest of it.
(Managed to get it back to military aviation there, just).
Ah, the Swiss system https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...A4H05920140518
Perhaps this could be our post-Brexit model of government? I'm sure the great British public will appreciate the importance of airborne maritime patrol and all the rest of it.
(Managed to get it back to military aviation there, just).
The French government persuaded the French people to accept nuclear electricity generation and now over 85 % of the electricity is so generated and independent of overseas oil. It was achieved and now it's just accepted as an excellent source of their power.
Beagle
See what you started? Hardly a week goes by without you ranting about Brexit and hurling insults at Cameron for 'granting' a referendum ( for which 544 MPs voted yes to hold a Yes/NO vote ), the leaders of the Leave Camp and all those of us who voted to leave.
I wasn't going to continue replying to your garbage but if you think people like me were hoodwinked by Davies, Gove and Johnson then you really need your head examined! I and many of my friends have been anti-EU ( not Europe, Germany or Europeans! ) since Gove and Johnson were in short trousers.
I wasn't going to continue replying to your garbage but if you think people like me were hoodwinked by Davies, Gove and Johnson then you really need your head examined! I and many of my friends have been anti-EU ( not Europe, Germany or Europeans! ) since Gove and Johnson were in short trousers.
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I have been anti-EU for decades, and voted Remain. There, I've said it.
However we need up where we are is somewhat irrelevant, as it is now a Fact.
The use of No. 32 (The Royal) Squadron by Cabinet Ministers [in addition to Royalty] is what it exists for.
Can we have a Referendum on whether this quasi-political Thread should die?
However we need up where we are is somewhat irrelevant, as it is now a Fact.
The use of No. 32 (The Royal) Squadron by Cabinet Ministers [in addition to Royalty] is what it exists for.
Can we have a Referendum on whether this quasi-political Thread should die?
We are where we are.
Blame, recriminations, insults, threats, are not going to help any of us [us = all the inhabitants and temporary inhabitants of the UK] find a way forward to a post-Brexit era that is as good as [or least bad as] it can be.
Meantime I believe the BBC is shockingly biased and seemingly inent on dragging us all down with the ship. And if we go down, apart from the dubious satisfaction of saying "we told you so" where is the mileage in that posture?
Blame, recriminations, insults, threats, are not going to help any of us [us = all the inhabitants and temporary inhabitants of the UK] find a way forward to a post-Brexit era that is as good as [or least bad as] it can be.
Meantime I believe the BBC is shockingly biased and seemingly inent on dragging us all down with the ship. And if we go down, apart from the dubious satisfaction of saying "we told you so" where is the mileage in that posture?
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The economic harm will happen regardless of what we think. Any of you lot had to deal with crap of customs movement of stuff recently? I have and what a pain in the butt, arguing whom is going to pay a bill.
What I find dispiriting is people taking the side of an EU who now wishes our country economic harm.
There are no excuses for holding that position.
There are no excuses for holding that position.
The fact that Brexit will cause the UK economic harm is not the EU's fault, it is ours alone.
Meantime I believe the BBC is shockingly biased and seemingly inent on dragging us all down with the ship. And if we go down, apart from the dubious satisfaction of saying "we told you so" where is the mileage in that posture?
Harrier, VC10, Lightning - there, some military aviation to keep everyone happy (ish).
What I love (!) about threads like this is that everybody believes wholeheartedly that they are right. They also believe it is their duty to try to change the mind of anyone who disagrees with them.
The government asked us a question and we (who voted) gave our answers. Job done.
The fact is nobody knows what happens next. It might be the best decision we ever made. It might be the end of Britain as we know it.
Whining changes nothing. It just gets very boring.
Can we change the record now?
BV
The government asked us a question and we (who voted) gave our answers. Job done.
The fact is nobody knows what happens next. It might be the best decision we ever made. It might be the end of Britain as we know it.
Whining changes nothing. It just gets very boring.
Can we change the record now?
BV
You're quite right Bob (speaking as someone who is as guilty as anyone). As I've said on a previous thread a long time ago, the internet is good for two things - arguing with strangers, and looking at pictures of cats.
I like cats.
I like cats.
