New big German-French Fighter Bomber under development

[keesje]

Apparently the Germans and French started working together to develop a new large stealth fighter bomber. Stealth & range are major drivers.




Both the Germans (Airbus Militairy) and French (Dassault) want to be in the lead.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-f...-idUSKBN1D31W0

[TWT]

Let's hope the Germans and the French both use the same Catia software version this time.

[Trim Stab]

Originally Posted by keesje

Apparently the Germans and French started working together to develop a new large stealth fighter bomber. Stealth & range are major drivers.




Both the Germans (Airbus Militairy) and French (Dassault) want to be in the lead.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-f...-idUSKBN1D31W0

Interesting shift in German defence doctrine if they really do want a long-range stealth bomber.

[Torquelink]

I think the German Air Force has now stated that they'd like to buy the F35 . .

[Aggamemnon]

Originally Posted by Trim Stab

Interesting shift in German defence doctrine if they really do want a long-range stealth bomber.

If one were being uncharitable it could be seen as a continuation of German doctrine: securing a large workshare of a big European aerospace project.

[ORAC]

The GAF will use the F-35 to replace the Tornado around 2025-2035. The new fighter will be to replace their Typhoon and the French Rafale arond 2035 onwards.

That leaves the UK to decide what they will use to replace their Typhoons, the planned next generation US fighter or join the Franco-German programme.

The present plan for the next USAF fighter is a long range Penetrator Counter Air designed to escort the B-21 bomber into contested airspace in the Pacific (China) theatre. Which may be unsuitable for the UK - or not available as with the F-22 it will replace.

As history shows,however, cooperation with the French means they want to be prime for the airframe... and the engine.... and the control software.... etc.... etc...

[oxenos]

As history shows,however, cooperation with the French means they want to be prime for the airframe... and the engine.... and the control software.... etc.... etc...

and the spelling

[Willard Whyte]

French (government) hedging their bets against potential 'failure' of BAE/Dassault FCAS (Taranis/nEURON) partnership?

I'm not going to mention the 'B-word'!

[unmanned_droid]

Originally Posted by TWT

Let's hope the Germans and the French both use the same Catia software version this time.

Nice nice.

I won’t be letting them forget about this anytime soon either!

[Icare9]

Dunno how stealthy the aircraft will be, but the pilot certainly has full stealth mode deployed.... Probably be known as a Dassornier

[Haraka]

All O.K until the French claim 51%........

[Buster Hyman]

Originally Posted by Haraka

All O.K until the French claim 51%........

And call it a 'Bombere"

[The B Word]

Looks like 2 crew and a move away from the moronic single seat concept in recent years. Both the Germans and the French have strong views on the value of 2-seaters for more complex missions.

[ORAC]

Perhaps because it’s main role is as the control platform for multiple combat UAVs. Second pair of hands will probably be necessary.

[NutLoose]

Probably sitting on a bunch of surplus Jaguar undercarriage legs.

[Top Bunk Tester]

Surely they won't need long range to launch against us for having the temerity to leave their wonderful Euro club ;0

[BEagle]

The legacy of Cameron's stupid plebiscite is that exchange rates are uncertain - so it would be utter madness to involve BWoS in any such future European fighter-bomber programme.

Besides, the French and Germans would probably want this aircraft delivered on-time and on-budget...

[FakePilot]

If it's controlling drones maybe they mean endurance instead of range?

[ORAC]

The legacy of Cameron's stupid plebiscite is that exchange rates are uncertain - so it would be utter madness to involve BWoS in any such future European fighter-bomber programme.

Since we were never in the Euro and government policy has not been to tie the pound to the Euro, I don't believe that to be true.

What will happen to exchange rates over 20 years in the future is not something anyone can estimate - or hedge.

[Willard Whyte]

Originally Posted by BEagle

The legacy of Cameron's stupid plebiscite i...

Fortunately your opinion is worth no more than those of us who despise european economic and political integration.