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Old 9th Nov 2017, 07:01
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P-8A Engine Fire

Nice to see the airport officials turned off the engine, the two passengers must have been busy looking for the luggage and duty free. I see they also loaned them a mechanic whilst the navy work out where it came from....

Navy Aircraft Engine Catches Fire, Lands Safely at Texas Airport

A Navy aircraft landed at the Corpus Christi International Airport with flames coming out of its engine midday Monday.

The P-8A Poseidon, which was in the area making approaches to the Corpus Christi International Airport, when the left engine caught fire. Airport officials said the aircraft was doing some training in the area for the day, which is normal activity..... Flames were coming out of the left engine when the pilot landed the aircraft in the airport.

Kim Bridger-Hunt, marketing manager for the airport, said she saw the aircraft through a window in the airport and assumed it was taking off from the airport because it was low to the ground with its nose up. "We heard the booms and saw the flames coming out of the engine," Bridger-Hunt said. "That's when we knew something serious was going on."

John Hyland, chief of public safety for the airport, said the aircraft landed about 11:55 a.m. at the airport. Hyland said the Corpus Christi police and fire departments, the Nueces County Sheriff's Office and airport officials responded and controlled the fire and turn off the engine.

At 1 p.m. the airport resumed regular operations, Hyland said. He said the aircraft only slowed operations at the airport, while a more serious incident would have caused the airport to shut down. "It is now a mechanical issue," Hyland said. Hyland said the aircraft is parked in the general aviation ramps at the airport, where a mechanic will work on it.

Although the aircraft is the size of a commercial plane, only two passengers, said to be the pilot and copilot, were onboard.

Liz Feaster, public affairs officer at Chief of Naval Air Training based at Naval Air Station Corpus Christi, said the aircraft was not a Navy trainer with Naval Air Station Corpus Christi or Naval Air Station Kingsville. "We don't know where it came from and what it's doing here," Feaster said......
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"We heard the booms and saw the flames coming out of the engine," Bridger-Hunt said. "That's when we knew something serious was going on."
Not much gets past them!
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Old 9th Nov 2017, 10:07
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only two passengers, said to be the pilot and copilot, were onboard.......
Clearly they left George in charge.
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The PAO is an idiot. There are a very limited number of bases where the P-8 would have come from. Given where she works on the CNATRA staff(and that the Maritime pipeline training that feeds the P-8 training squadron is at NAS Corpus Christi), the assertion that she has no idea where the aircraft came from means she's not suited to her job as the PAO for the Rear Admiral in charge of all aviation training. My further comments will be drowned out by the grinding of my teeth ... where do we find these gems?
Liz Feaster, public affairs officer at Chief of Naval Air Training based at Naval Air Station Corpus Christi, said the aircraft was not a Navy trainer with Naval Air Station Corpus Christi or Naval Air Station Kingsville. "We don't know where it came from and what it's doing here," Feaster said.
I can answer that: what it was doing was called "a training flight" and where it came from can be found in the N-3 office in the very building where you work, Liz.
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Would there only be 2 crew aboard? Given the horrid write up quoted above I doubt everything in the article, but I was surprised to read only 2 souls aboard?


Agree Liz needs a bit of education on Naval Aviation.
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Leave Liz alone; Information Officers are there to obfuscate, not clarify, and playing dumb is their go-to response.

I still cherish the USAF PIO who, back circa 1972, explained to the local tourist interests on Guam that the reason bombed-up B-52s couldn't be diverted from flying over their hotels on climbout was because it took the pilots eight miles or so to get their planes under control after taking off.
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From the article 'transient alert maintenance craftsman' - is that a new one for VASS ?
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When I lived by the river on the DCA approach path I recall at least one 737 suffering an episode of fiery flatulence out of #1. Entertaining but it didn't make the papers.
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Old 10th Nov 2017, 21:46
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From the article 'transient alert maintenance craftsman' - is that a new one for VASS ?
Not that new really. TA is VASS, Maintenance Craftsman is a trade qual/rank I believe.
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On a waaaayyyy more serious note, the important fact I take away from this instance, is that only the pilots are required for pilots manders.

This will bring a leap of joy from the few that will fly in the P8 harboring ever dwindling memories of minimum crew (1 Nav, 3 Siggies, plus the dear 'ol FE) "runway - pounding" mind numbing borefests they suffered in the Mighty Hunter.

No doubt some RAF skygod will invent a reason to change that joyful policy once they get their grubby maws on the new beast.

I still suffer nightmares to this day...

Flaps to twenty, flight director to heading, powers good, call me rotate...oh the pain the pain
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Got to be someone down back to provide the coffee and pies....
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On a waaaayyyy more serious note, the important fact I take away from this instance, is that only the pilots are required for pilots manders.

This will bring a leap of joy from the few that will fly in the P8 harboring ever dwindling memories of minimum crew (1 Nav, 3 Siggies, plus the dear 'ol FE) "runway - pounding" mind numbing borefests they suffered in the Mighty Hunter.

No doubt some RAF skygod will invent a reason to change that joyful policy once they get their grubby maws on the new beast.

I still suffer nightmares to this day...

Flaps to twenty, flight director to heading, powers good, call me rotate...oh the pain the pain
Hopefully they’ll realise that this sort of training can be better accomplished in a Level D flight simulator instead of incurring uneccessary cycles on the aircraft.
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It appears that the aircraft was BuNo 168431 from VP-26 at Navy Jax.

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TOFO wrote:
On a waaaayyyy more serious note, the important fact I take away from this instance, is that only the pilots are required for pilots manders.

This will bring a leap of joy from the few that will fly in the P8 harbouring ever dwindling memories of minimum crew (1 Nav, 3 Siggies, plus the dear 'ol FE) "runway - pounding" mind numbing borefests they suffered in the Mighty Hunter.

No doubt some RAF skygod will invent a reason to change that joyful policy once they get their grubby maws on the new beast.

I still suffer nightmares to this day...
Didn't you become aircrew to fly? That sort of attitude reminds me of the ALMs on 10 Sqn who couldn't be ar$ed to fly on AAR sorties - or 'locals' as they termed them. One once turned up late and incorrectly dressed for one of our trips and announced that we couldn't start up until she'd finished checking all the empty seats before she would do the trim sheet...for only 4 PoB, not including her. I asked her what she would be doing rather than flying, then rang their squadron Ops to advise them that Sgt(W) Idle Lardarse would be available for any duty they required, as she didn't want to fly on our simple 3 hour North Sea AAR trip.

I gather that she spent the rest of the day amending their boss's APs...

If aircrew don't want to fly on a simple CT trip, they need to have their palms read and offered alternative employment.... If you joined to fly, then fly you should!
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lol

You been out so long you lost your sense of humour...or did you ever have one one?

Didn't you become aircrew to fly?
not really...birds, booze, pocket money, jollies, days off, free grub...then maybe a spot o' ASW.

Nevertheless, fly much, I've got a thousand hours....night....taxying backwards.

You are right though...my attitude did suck..and I did get my palm read. I was that sh1t, they went and commissioned me.

PS

Since when was anything 10 sqn did, flying in any operational sense. Just a glorified version of uber really.
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TOFO, you’ve rumbled me as I only go to work to be flown about while I listen to the radio. Technically speaking that’s correct.
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This will bring a leap of joy from the few that will fly in the P8 harboring ever dwindling memories of minimum crew (1 Nav, 3 Siggies, plus the dear 'ol FE) "runway - pounding" mind numbing borefests they suffered in the Mighty Hunter.
Didn't you become aircrew to fly?
Well Beagle, yes, but even the keenest eager beaver nav can be excused for getting a trifle cheesed off after half an hour or so at the end of a sortie while the guys up the front hone their landing skills (essential as that training may be).

I recall reading the following graffiti which had been written on the "dustbin lid" which fitted into the little window by the nav radar in the Victor.

"The speed is high, the height is low
Oh Christ another touch and go
Here I sit and loudly scream
Why won't the bugger land and stream?"
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No stick, no vote....!

I wasn't terribly keen to fly those wretched night / limited navigation trips which our lower-deck folk had to practise in the Vulcan, but still had to do them. But I can understand why they didn't like much circuit-bashing at the end of the trip, because with the landing gear remaining extended, they wouldn't have had much of a chance if we'd had to abandon the aircraft.
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Ironic that the old “no stick, no vote” comment is mentioned on a thread about an ISTAR type!
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Since when was anything 10 sqn did, flying in any operational sense. Just a glorified version of uber really.

I might have misunderstood the above comment but some of the tanking sorties that 10 Sqn flew over Iraq in sh*tty weather felt pretty operational - certainly from my cockpit.
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