So why are the Austrians ditching Typhoon?
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Austria will enter negotiations with Indonesia for the sale of 15 Eurofighters ? Alert 5
Austria will enter negotiations with Indonesia for the sale of 15 Eurofighters
Austria’s Defense Minister Klaudia Tanner has officially responded to Indonesia’s request to buy 15 Eurofighters from her country.
Tanner said she had directed the General Staff to prepare for negotiations with Jakarta. She said the “exit from the Eurofighter system” is the declared goal and the sale is in the best interest of taxpayers.
Two options are available for the sale to proceed. First, the Eurofighter consortium will have to issue a end user certificate to Indonesia and Austria will sell the jets directly to Indonesia. Alternatively, Airbus will buy back the planes, upgrade them and sell them to the South East Asian nation instead.....
Austria will enter negotiations with Indonesia for the sale of 15 Eurofighters
Austria’s Defense Minister Klaudia Tanner has officially responded to Indonesia’s request to buy 15 Eurofighters from her country.
Tanner said she had directed the General Staff to prepare for negotiations with Jakarta. She said the “exit from the Eurofighter system” is the declared goal and the sale is in the best interest of taxpayers.
Two options are available for the sale to proceed. First, the Eurofighter consortium will have to issue a end user certificate to Indonesia and Austria will sell the jets directly to Indonesia. Alternatively, Airbus will buy back the planes, upgrade them and sell them to the South East Asian nation instead.....
The piccies of the Austrian jets with their very fine "Fin Art" are very good, weather looks not too good, flat shows I imagine, especially with the ground going up very high!
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Anyway begs the question will the Bundesheer purchase the Gripen or F-16? Then again anything could happen in the next 2 years.
Maybe Jakarta and Vienna Exchange jets...F-16 for Typhoon.
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Can a Eurofighter even perform within the limits of Austrian airspace? I'd think it would be well over the border during any high speed maneuvers.
Was there any plausible military rationale for this acquisition or was it purely a political purchase?
Was there any plausible military rationale for this acquisition or was it purely a political purchase?
Why? To reassure us that Austria borders only on peaceful countries? At 400 kts, the long axis of the country takes less than an hour, half that going north south.
I do not see the military role in the current environment for Typhoon, it seems more appropriate for the cold war era, when anything coming from the east could be deemed hostile.
So imho Austria did great to find a (sucker) buyer for their expensive jets.
I do not see the military role in the current environment for Typhoon, it seems more appropriate for the cold war era, when anything coming from the east could be deemed hostile.
So imho Austria did great to find a (sucker) buyer for their expensive jets.
Why? To reassure us that Austria borders only on peaceful countries? At 400 kts, the long axis of the country takes less than an hour, half that going north south.
I do not see the military role in the current environment for Typhoon, it seems more appropriate for the cold war era, when anything coming from the east could be deemed hostile.
So imho Austria did great to find a (sucker) buyer for their expensive jets.
I do not see the military role in the current environment for Typhoon, it seems more appropriate for the cold war era, when anything coming from the east could be deemed hostile.
So imho Austria did great to find a (sucker) buyer for their expensive jets.
The Austrians claim to have no money for any jet fighters but still want some and need to finally phase out their old SAAB 105s. So why not buy second hand F-16 from anyone of those F-35 customers? Or early built Gripen from Sweden? There IS stuff available for cheap. Just look at commercial target display companies. From Skyhawks to Mirages you can make old fighters work hard today.
What they seem to mainly need is some fast patrol and visual inspection plane only it seems. No A-G. Their Eurofighters had only VERY limited armament.
Austria is not poor so I don't get what takes them so long?
What they seem to mainly need is some fast patrol and visual inspection plane only it seems. No A-G. Their Eurofighters had only VERY limited armament.
Austria is not poor so I don't get what takes them so long?
The Austrians claim to have no money for any jet fighters but still want some and need to finally phase out their old SAAB 105s. So why not buy second hand F-16 from anyone of those F-35 customers? Or early built Gripen from Sweden? There IS stuff available for cheap. Just look at commercial target display companies. From Skyhawks to Mirages you can make old fighters work hard today.
What they seem to mainly need is some fast patrol and visual inspection plane only it seems. No A-G. Their Eurofighters had only VERY limited armament.
Austria is not poor so I don't get what takes them so long?
What they seem to mainly need is some fast patrol and visual inspection plane only it seems. No A-G. Their Eurofighters had only VERY limited armament.
Austria is not poor so I don't get what takes them so long?
Or there was some 'interesting politics' going on behind the scenes, that froze the Swedes out.
I can't remember where, but I seem to have a snippet in my head about the RAF lobbying Wallace & Cummings (or whoever it is) for an additional two Typhoon Squadrons? Were it so, then a buy of the 15 the Austrians have would help remedy this aspiration, at least to the tune of a single squadron!? Further, the Austrians, as has been suggested, could have a chat with the Belgians, Dutch, Danes and Norwegians about picking their pick of the soon to be surfeit of F-16s.
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Those are tranche 1 early ones and of no use to the RAF. Different data bus and capabilities.
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Since Bundesheer has selected the AW169M , wonder if any bearing on the Typhoon situ. Strangely enough, with the original purchase of Typhoon , Leoanrdo or then Aeritalia (?) was not mentioned....
https://www.bundesheer.at/cms/artikel.php?ID=10583
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https://www.bundesheer.at/cms/artikel.php?ID=10583
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