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Old 15th Sep 2017, 07:23
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Backfire "Runway Excursion"

Russian Tu-22M3 runway excursion

A Russian Tu-22M3 bomber veered off the runway while landing at Shaikavka airbase. The news was reported on Sept. 14.

The aircraft is said to be damaged beyond repair. All four on board were not injured.



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Damaged beyond repair?? Sure the port wing looks a little shorter than it should be but apart from that there's nothing a little gaffer tape wouldn't sort...
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It'll buff out..............

I'll get my coat...........

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Glad the crew got out ok, suspect the laundry bill is going to be a bit on the high side though! Does the damage to the root of the port wing trailing edge indicate they were going backwards at some point?
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If it's anything car insurance repairs, it's probably cheaper just to buy a new one !
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Aren't the doors on the bottom?
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Aren't the doors on the bottom?
No, that was the Blinder. You strapped into the ejector seat which retracted upwards into the aircraft. Something of a death trap at low level - like the F-104A.

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Does the damage to the root of the port wing trailing edge indicate they were going backwards at some point?
Might be a result of the main gear liberating itself. Resembles the BA 777 landing short of the RWY in Heathrow.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...04_670479c.jpg
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The reason for the damage to the port wing is revealed as is the late abort, not helped by one of the brake chutes streaming...


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RP, Thanks for posting that link. I think the vid prompts quite a few questions that will probably go unanswered. BTW, I don't think the drag chute issue had much to do with the outcome.

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This looks like a pretty normal high speed abort - throttles closed at 0' 41" on the clip followed by the brake chute but no clues as to why. The rapid diversion into the tundra suggests a subsequent braking problem - there's no discernible rudder deflection.
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remarkable it didn't catch fire TBH
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I am reminded of the story told by someone here of a Victor accelerating down the runway at which point a small voice said “hydraulics?”......
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remarkable it didn't catch fire TBH
As the AN 2s, that I saw fly from our heliport in China, used to fly quite happily on Jet A1, I presume Blinders can run on diesel.
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Originally Posted by nipva
....The rapid diversion into the tundra ...

Cool! This airbase is as north as, e.g., Middlesbrough. Local folks would be surprised if they were told they lived in tundra. Thick woods around with some trees 100 ft high and 3 ft in diameter.

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Audio is about 10 sec behind the picture. Also, looks like taileron leading edge down (pitch up) as soon as I can make it out, moves about a bit but pretty much full deflection all the way into overun. Video will be useful for anyone who knows details of Tu22M takeoff performance and SOP.

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According to this source, the aircraft was close to maximum take-off weight and quotes a high ranking source as saying, “The cause of the accident was the failure of speed sensors during the take-off, resulting in the crew decided to stop taking off.”
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Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry
remarkable it didn't catch fire TBH
Indeed. Equally remarkable how intact it remained. Tough old birds, those Backfires.
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Right. It is a common opinion here that narrow escape of fire was a great luck.
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'The rapid diversion into the tundra'
I did not expect this to be taken literally, tundra was merely a tongue in cheek figure of speech bearing in mind the aircraft's country of origin but I duly stand corrected.
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