UK - More defence cuts
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UK - More defence cuts
This morning's "Times" has the following immediate cuts - all budget driven to cover a £2 Bn a year "hole" in spending
Minehunters down from 15 to 13
Armoured training exercises in Canda down from 4 to 3 per year
Infantry training in Kenya down from 5 to 3 per year
This will save only £20 mm a year
12 Lynxes of 657 AAC used for Special Forces to be scrapped
Cabinet Office review currently looking at reducing F-35 deliveries by 2025 from 48 to 38 but as usual they claim "total purchase will remain unchanged".
This is the first stage in the well known path to "a maximum of .." then "Up to...." " then "buy x defer y" followed by "actually we can get by on 75|% of x".
Minehunters down from 15 to 13
Armoured training exercises in Canda down from 4 to 3 per year
Infantry training in Kenya down from 5 to 3 per year
This will save only £20 mm a year
12 Lynxes of 657 AAC used for Special Forces to be scrapped
Cabinet Office review currently looking at reducing F-35 deliveries by 2025 from 48 to 38 but as usual they claim "total purchase will remain unchanged".
This is the first stage in the well known path to "a maximum of .." then "Up to...." " then "buy x defer y" followed by "actually we can get by on 75|% of x".
Scrap the Wildcat and junk JHC - that would save millions and make everyone else in the helo world very happy.
The decision to scrap 657 Sqn is stupid and also old news.
The decision to scrap 657 Sqn is stupid and also old news.
The exchange rate may be an immediate factor, but I think the simple fact is that despite the spending increase that politicians will happily remind us all about, the increase comes on the back of how many years worth of decreases and an overall budget that is insufficient to meet the UK's political aspirations. Dress it up how you like, but governments of all hues have underinvested and overstretched Defence terribly since the Wall came down and the fallacy of their peace dividend was revealed.
But if BREXIT goes badly, watch the exchange rate tank even further and this will not likely be the last immediate cut.
But if BREXIT goes badly, watch the exchange rate tank even further and this will not likely be the last immediate cut.
Consequences of buying in $ with the pound at a historic low level?
But if BREXIT goes badly...
Melmoth - agreed, all those leavers who seem to think it hasn't been as bad as warned haven't seen the half of it. We are tying up all the parlimentary time and effort with brexit at the very time we should be sorting the country out, the economy is tanking, we still have austerity to deal with.
What a stupid time to tear ourselves away from Europe - especially since the immigration issues aren't going to change and we are adopting all the European laws into British law - what on earth is it going to achieve?
What a stupid time to tear ourselves away from Europe - especially since the immigration issues aren't going to change and we are adopting all the European laws into British law - what on earth is it going to achieve?
Originally Posted by [email protected]
and we are adopting all the European laws into British law - what on earth is it going to achieve?
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"we still have austerity to deal with"
We chose not to by re-electing the Conservatives but with a much reduced majority. Continued austerity and efficiency measures rather than tax increases is the Policy pending Brexit unless we have another Referendum or Election.
With the two major Party's as divided as ever on the question of Europe, who knows what the next few years will bring. If we decided to change our mind and stay in, would the EU allow us to continue with all our opt outs and outside the Euro. I suspect not. It's a story that just runs and runs as it has done since 1973!
We chose not to by re-electing the Conservatives but with a much reduced majority. Continued austerity and efficiency measures rather than tax increases is the Policy pending Brexit unless we have another Referendum or Election.
With the two major Party's as divided as ever on the question of Europe, who knows what the next few years will bring. If we decided to change our mind and stay in, would the EU allow us to continue with all our opt outs and outside the Euro. I suspect not. It's a story that just runs and runs as it has done since 1973!
"we still have austerity to deal with"
We chose not to by re-electing the Conservatives but with a much reduced majority. Continued austerity and efficiency measures rather than tax increases is the Policy pending Brexit unless we have another Referendum or Election.
With the two major Party's as divided as ever on the question of Europe, who knows what the next few years will bring. If we decided to change our mind and stay in, would the EU allow us to continue with all our opt outs and outside the Euro. I suspect not. It's a story that just runs and runs as it has done since 1973!
We chose not to by re-electing the Conservatives but with a much reduced majority. Continued austerity and efficiency measures rather than tax increases is the Policy pending Brexit unless we have another Referendum or Election.
With the two major Party's as divided as ever on the question of Europe, who knows what the next few years will bring. If we decided to change our mind and stay in, would the EU allow us to continue with all our opt outs and outside the Euro. I suspect not. It's a story that just runs and runs as it has done since 1973!
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
The decision to scrap 657 Sqn is stupid and also old news.
Was particularly interested to hear that Puma will cover the role when they can't even support Kenya (and the Army pays through the nose for them)...
Politely - yes it has been common knowledge in AAC circles for a few weeks.
I believe the Puma serviceability has been rather poor so no wonder they can't support the Army. Back to the 212s then
I believe the Puma serviceability has been rather poor so no wonder they can't support the Army. Back to the 212s then
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So I'm afraid I'll disagree, they are tired, as is the spares chain, the training pipeline.....etc.
Oh Gawd! The Remoaners are out in farce today.
In my lifetime the £ has varied from $4 to $1 so I'm pretty sanguine about it's future and, in the meantime, exports and the tourist trade are doing well.
Leaving the corrupt EU restores control of our fisheries, farming and immigration to Parliament.
The bogus argument that we are retaining EU laws fails to acknowledge that they can be altered at leisure. Contrary to Remoaner propaganda, immigration from outside the EU IS affected. For instance, deportees will, no longer, be able to take their case to the ECHR.
It seems to me that the multiple, mostly unelected, EU bodies are really worried about the loss of the UK contribution to their unaudited coffers. Juncker, the President of the EC, was PM of a country with half the population of Birmingham. You really couldn't make it up.
Of course it will take years to restore our great country to its former success and sovereignty but it will be worth it.
As for 'austerity' and social security money which could go to the mil; perhaps we should take a hard look at our 'could work, won't work' people and stop their tap. As my Scottish grandmother used to say: "Maun dae's a guid master." ('Must do' is a desirable discipline).
In my lifetime the £ has varied from $4 to $1 so I'm pretty sanguine about it's future and, in the meantime, exports and the tourist trade are doing well.
Leaving the corrupt EU restores control of our fisheries, farming and immigration to Parliament.
The bogus argument that we are retaining EU laws fails to acknowledge that they can be altered at leisure. Contrary to Remoaner propaganda, immigration from outside the EU IS affected. For instance, deportees will, no longer, be able to take their case to the ECHR.
It seems to me that the multiple, mostly unelected, EU bodies are really worried about the loss of the UK contribution to their unaudited coffers. Juncker, the President of the EC, was PM of a country with half the population of Birmingham. You really couldn't make it up.
Of course it will take years to restore our great country to its former success and sovereignty but it will be worth it.
As for 'austerity' and social security money which could go to the mil; perhaps we should take a hard look at our 'could work, won't work' people and stop their tap. As my Scottish grandmother used to say: "Maun dae's a guid master." ('Must do' is a desirable discipline).