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Old 17th Aug 2017, 12:43
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More than likely a QA issue with engine overhauler or parts supplier that they use. Not aware that other aircraft are grounded..
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 12:52
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I only heard the last few minutes of the segment on the Jeremy Whine show, but who on earth was that daft Epstein woman? Top marks to Geoff Brindle for keeping his cool when faced with such a ridiculous debate.

What exactly is the issue? Still nothing on the BBMF website, despite very strong interest in the situation...
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 13:03
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The silence is another indicator that it could be a contractual/QA/procedural issue which could well end up in a court...

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Old 17th Aug 2017, 13:20
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Wouldn't be the same industrial group responsible for the maintenance (or lack thereof) of the technically sophisticated Air Cadet Glider fleet perhaps?
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 13:26
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Originally Posted by ACW342 View Post
Wouldn't be the same industrial group responsible for the maintenance (or lack thereof) of the technically sophisticated Air Cadet Glider fleet perhaps?
Err... No...
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 13:39
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Thought not. There's been no hint of legal action in that particular mess. How DO they get away with it?
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 14:20
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SERCO

SERCO was always controversial. In the late 80's early 90's while I was working at MoD many Contracts were market tested and many MoD contracts were lost to SERCO. There was a lot of suspicion at the time of how SERCO were managing to win so many Contracts. SERCO brand starts just before all the market testing, and Mrs Thatchers privatization of many Government services, on the board of directors at SERCO - a Mr Dennis Thatcher!!

Related ??...............or just a co-incidence ?

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Old 17th Aug 2017, 14:51
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Jump! Lets wait for facts
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 15:18
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Originally Posted by Jetscream 32 View Post
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nobody likes the sound of silence when airborne other than glider pilots.....
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No, we like the scream of the vario telling us we are in a 10-knot climb or the sound of a glider flying fast, either between thermals or along a wave bar.
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 15:27
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Please confine Air Cadet comments to the relevant thread, chaps/chapesses/chapthings...

RETRO TRACK & AIR (U.K.) Ltd would seem to be the company responsible for the overhaul of BBMF Merlins.

I also found this 'official' BBMF statement:

A routine inspection has highlighted a fault with one of the Merlin engines in a Hurricane aircraft. We are currently investigating the fault and as a precaution, flying of Merlin engine powered aircraft has been paused. We are still operating Griffon & Gypsy powered aircraft, including Spitfires and Chipmunks. We realise the disappointment this will be to our many supporters, however safety remains our paramount concern
One of the engines in a Hurricane....
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 15:47
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One of the engines in a Hurricane....
I take BEagle's point, but look at it this way:
  1. BBMF has several Merlin engines;
  2. A fault has been found in one of them;
  3. That engine is in a Hurricane.

Simples...
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 16:53
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Shuttleworth now has three Hurricanes resident'. Are they similarly affected?
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 17:05
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Having been fortunate enough to visit Retro on a couple of occasions a few years ago (2010), I'd be surprised if they're at fault, as I found them to be a highly professional, well-motivated and enthusiastic bunch.
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 17:39
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You could always try Andrew Dixon who has access to a privately owned Dakota based at Dunsfold.


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Old 17th Aug 2017, 18:19
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Could always let the engineers get on with the job
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 18:27
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Originally Posted by jonw66 View Post
Could always let the engineers get on with the job
Exactly, it all sounds completely blown out of proportion.... ie. on engine being torn down for overhaul or during inspection as part of overhaul, hairline crack or fatigue found on skew gear...(if it is indeed that) - so much easier to ground all engines and inspect all due to outcome of problem if one fails...

This is a standard AD equivalent with absolutely no real news, yes its a shame it has been found mid display season... but top marks for finding it whatever it is and pro actively doing something about it to keep the airframes and crew safe..

Its not really a story, but im sure some dufus will use it as tool to stop the tax payer trying to fund it!!
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 19:08
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Surely if it all went quiet up front....no problem...i've seen Dunkirk and the engine out performance of even a Mk 1 Spitfire is just incredible......
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 19:26
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Daily Mail reporting a problem with a Hurricane Merlin engine "pin"
The Lanc was recently overhauled at Duxford - surely would have been spotted unless overhaul didn't include 4x engines
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 21:00
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'Just Jane' to the rescue again ?
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 21:15
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Whatever the problem is better safe than sorry!
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