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Most difficult formation aerobatic manoeuvre?

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Old 29th Jul 2017, 07:50
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A bit of thread drift.

Being a local I often see the RAFAT practising at Scampton. I understand that a constant wind is going to effect everyone in the same way but what about gusting, I have seen them up at 30 Kts mean but gusting 45. Does this effect individual members more than others?
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Old 29th Jul 2017, 08:38
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Formating with different aircraft types has its own issues as they each react differently due to their size/shape/aerodynamics as well as to their flying control dynamics.


Sitting behind an AAR tanker whilst sat in a Tonka when there's turbulence often meant the tanker and the basket bouncing around but the Tonka sat there, dead still with its gust alleviation doing its job.


Did a season formating on a Canberra in a Hunter and that had its own issues with different acceleration and deceleration rates. Didn't try any exotic manoeuvres that early in our careers though.
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Old 29th Jul 2017, 09:06
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Getting into close formation in a helicopter:

When the crewman says "that's close enough" - 2 rotor spans
When the crewman says "that's REALLY close enough" - 1.5 rotor spans
When the crewman's getting the fire axe out - 1 rotor span!

Worked every time!
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Old 29th Jul 2017, 09:12
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Formating with different aircraft types has its own issues as they each react differently due to their size/shape/aerodynamics as well as to their flying control dynamics.
Which is what took down the XB-70. F-104 got in too close and the aerodynamics took it up and over taking off the tail fins.



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