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Old 18th Jul 2017, 11:16
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Originally Posted by Corporal Clott View Post
Like it or not, the world is changing. I still find it staggering that women were not allowed to vote in this country some 100 years ago. Luckily I am from a different generation that finds this so very strange and deplorable.
As a point of interest, it's worth bearing in mind that it wasn't just women who were unable to vote 100 years ago. We are all aware that it was the Suffragettes who obtained votes for women but we seem to have had male suffrage airbrushed from our minds, many will argue that it's because it has been at odds with an ongoing political narrative. Whatever the reason, its omission from our understanding is inexplicable and unwarranted.

Before 1918, the vote was restricted not only by gender, as we are lead to believe, but also by property qualifications, when only 60% of adult men were entitled to vote. The RotP 1918 Act is, rightly, famous for giving 8,000,000 women the vote; but it also allowed 5,000,000 men returning from The Great War, the ability to vote as long as they were over 21 and, finally, without regard to property or social class. It's such a shame that we don't talk about it more, or that it goes unreported. It is almost a stain on the memory of what we/they were fighting for - namely, modern freedoms for both men and women.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representation_of_the_People_Act_1918
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Old 18th Jul 2017, 11:21
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Al R, absolutely. I'm fully aware of that. There is an interesting TV program coming up on Ch4 hosted by Clare Balding that discusses how the Football Association banned womens' football in 1921 for over 50 years. At the time a womens' football team was drawing crowd sizes of over 60,000 spectators. So gender exclusion is still very recent in this country and more so than many think.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...-fa-outlawing/
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Old 18th Jul 2017, 11:25
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Before anyone thinks that my moniker is belittling female menstruation, it is taken from a comic many years ago!



Joke!
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Old 18th Jul 2017, 13:09
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As opposed to which other type of menstruation?
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Old 18th Jul 2017, 14:02
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"Their periods attract sharks!" (R Burgundy, 1980).
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Old 18th Jul 2017, 15:14
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ORAC, I'm just trying to ensure no one gets confused: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_menstruation
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Old 18th Jul 2017, 16:49
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Originally Posted by Brian 48nav View Post
This 70 year old 'has been' has just returned from a 55 mile solo cycle ride ( please don't clap too loudly! ) during which I pondered my next message to LJ.

I'm sorry Melmothtw, but i am not just going for the man I am going for his jugular.

Leon - your moniker is the most offensive I have seen on here in my time as a PPruner and can be interpreted only one way - that you are the worst kind of misogynist. I guess you must have been 10 years old when you chose that! Does six figure salary wife know that is the name you use?

I am amazed that the mods let that one through - or maybe in their innocence like me they saw a Polish sounding name and thought you must be descended from one of the WW2 heroes who fought with the RAF.

The first thing you can do now is make an apology to all those you have attacked here, but particularly Danny42C and then, because I and no doubt others find it difficult to believe that you are an officer and gentleman, reveal your identity and proof that you are not a troll! I'm thinking all this talk about flying in fast jets and helicopters with female pilots is all bullsh*t.

If you aren't prepared to do so, I hope that someone who knows you may 'Out' you. When you choose a new moniker I suggest 'six figure salary wife's lapdog'. Better still I think you should be banned.

If I have upset others here with this post then you know who to blame, and it is not me!
Brian

The only thing that we can agree on is that my nom de plume is offensive to the female gender, for which I apologise wholeheartedly to them all for. I will be asking the PPRuNe Mods to suspend this account at the end of this post via the 'contact us' option. It was chosen from a set of supposedly joke names that should have been assigned to the rubbish bin some years ago - no better than school boy sniggerings or some of the other offensive things like the Robinson's Jam mascot.

As for the rest of my comments, I am not sorry. Some of the attitudes/comments displayed on this thread to the female gender are totally outdated, inappropriate and offensive - just like my nom de plume. Maybe some of you could also reflect like I have on what is wrong? Even if you were born in an era when women were banned from soccer and only over-30s were allowed to vote; things change, and they have, for the better.

Finally, there is a very good reason why nicknames, monikers or nom de plumes are used on PPRuNe by those still serving; if you are serving you cannot be seen to publically criticise things whilst actively promoting your full identity. Otherwise, the press would start quoting "Fg Off Snodgrass on PPRuNe said...". I am sure you know that. Maybe in years to come I can buy you a beer and tell you face to face who I am and why I think your position is so very wrong. Until that day comes, and I retire, then it's not an option.

Once again, I apologise to the females on this forum for my childish and inappropriate use of my nom de plume that I chose to use.

Over and out...
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Old 18th Jul 2017, 17:22
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LJ

I promised myself after my rant yesterday that I was going to ignore this thread.

Thank you for having the balls to admit your ill-advised choice of moniker.

Corporal Clott

I have calmed down! BUT all those names you put up are humorous and not indicative of some dreadful way to treat women.

Also over and out!
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Old 18th Jul 2017, 17:25
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Good post Leon.
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Old 18th Jul 2017, 17:59
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Hi Brian

Some of these also meet the same 'insulting to females' criteria that ex-LJ has deemed to have deemed to have applied:

Justin Cyder-Belvoir
Welwyn Cyder-Belvoir

Helen Damnation
Willie Eckerslike
Mike Oxlong
Mike Hunt
Heywood Jablomey
Hugh Jardon
Buster Hyman
Ali Chapussy
Isaac Hunt

Sheila Vaperiod
Drew Peacock

Just saying

Anyway, I doubt he'll take up your suggested moniker if he does reinvent himself on here!!!
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Old 18th Jul 2017, 19:22
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I would note that Dave Hunt's nickname on 20 Sqn was "Isaac".

Now, what was the subject again? Oh, yes ... I beiefly discussed the Female RAF Regt personnel subject with my friend, the female Nav wg cdr, at the weekend. She wasn't in the least interested in the gender issues. "if they can do the job, that's fine."
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Old 18th Jul 2017, 19:46
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Sheesh Leon, (or whatever your handle is now), will you please get off your faux-feminist high horse and stop telling us what to think!

Go practice your Labour/Green party prospective parliamentary candidate speech elsewhere.
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Old 18th Jul 2017, 19:54
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Training Risky, you're still on the naughty step as well fella (post #90)



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Old 18th Jul 2017, 19:57
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I doubt whether my drill Sergeant - Flt Sgt Paddy Fogarty would have approved of ladies in the Regiment. Indeed he approved of very little we cadets did at Cranwell. However he was a great bloke, he taught us discipline and we really loved him. Anyone else remember Paddy.
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Old 18th Jul 2017, 20:26
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This thread is hilarious. Without even trying.

But a valid point for the retired dudes, I have seen people being witch hunted by serving management for "controversial" opinions on this site and others. Not pretty and indeed seen careers destroyed by what they posted on here.
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Old 18th Jul 2017, 22:41
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I wonder how many female posters there are on this thread, or indeed on the whole mil forum?
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Old 18th Jul 2017, 23:14
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these days you need to ask about a whole spectrum, its not just Mars and Venus.

There are Lettuces, Gerberas, Bananas and Tomatoes.

You read it here first!
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Old 19th Jul 2017, 02:39
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Originally Posted by Leon Jabachjabicz View Post
Brian

The only thing that we can agree on is that my nom de plume is offensive to the female gender, for which I apologise wholeheartedly to them all for. I will be asking the PPRuNe Mods to suspend this account at the end of this post via the 'contact us' option. It was chosen from a set of supposedly joke names that should have been assigned to the rubbish bin some years ago - no better than school boy sniggerings or some of the other offensive things like the Robinson's Jam mascot.

As for the rest of my comments, I am not sorry. Some of the attitudes/comments displayed on this thread to the female gender are totally outdated, inappropriate and offensive - just like my nom de plume. Maybe some of you could also reflect like I have on what is wrong? Even if you were born in an era when women were banned from soccer and only over-30s were allowed to vote; things change, and they have, for the better.

Finally, there is a very good reason why nicknames, monikers or nom de plumes are used on PPRuNe by those still serving; if you are serving you cannot be seen to publically criticise things whilst actively promoting your full identity. Otherwise, the press would start quoting "Fg Off Snodgrass on PPRuNe said...". I am sure you know that. Maybe in years to come I can buy you a beer and tell you face to face who I am and why I think your position is so very wrong. Until that day comes, and I retire, then it's not an option.

Once again, I apologise to the females on this forum for my childish and inappropriate use of my nom de plume that I chose to use.

Over and out...
Excellent post, Leon. Might I suggest you ask the mods to simply change your user name to say "Leon J"? That way, the displayed name on the posts you have made will change, and will not be "orphaned".

Either that, or "Ivor Biggun", which isn't sexist. Just "sizist"
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Old 19th Jul 2017, 18:10
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I am thinking of putting a bid to be the thickest member on PPRuNe!

In all the years I have been on here I must have seen hundreds of posts by Leon Jabachjabicz and never tumbled what the name actually meant

One of my best friends in my youth was a Leon, and he had a Polish surname. Were it not for this thread I would probably thus have carried on thinking that LJ's family was of some unspecified Slavic origin
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Old 19th Jul 2017, 18:26
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Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav View Post
I am thinking of putting a bid to be the thickest member on PPRuNe!

In all the years I have been on here I must have seen hundreds of posts by Leon Jabachjabicz and never tumbled what the name actually meant

One of my best friends in my youth was a Leon, and he had a Polish surname. Were it not for this thread I would probably thus have carried on thinking that LJ's family was of some unspecified Slavic origin
I can assure you that you are not alone
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