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Old 11th Jul 2017, 02:12
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USMC KC-130 down in Mississippi

Conflicting info so far. Reports of in-flight breakup and debris field of "five miles" - yet one picture at least shows what seems to be a fairly complete (if now flat) airframe. Too much smoke from this angle to see if cockpit still attached.

https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/msnbc...x-1080-600.jpg
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At least 16 people were believed dead after a military plane crashed in the Mississippi Delta on Monday, promoting an urgent rescue effort in one of the South’s most rural regions, the authorities said.

Fred Randle, the emergency management director in Leflore County, Miss., said in a brief interview late Monday that officials thought at least 16 people had died in the crash.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/u...ta-deaths.html

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJeHywUeXR8
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Sad indeed - conflicting early reports - in flight break up:

https://news.usni.org/2017/07/10/mar...t-5-fatalities
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Alan Hammons, an official at Greenwood Airport, told WNCN that the aircraft suffered a “structural failure” at 20,000 feet. The Clarion Ledger reported that the plane departed from Naval Support Activity Mid-South Base in Millington, Tenn.

WTF?
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A comment on facebook indicates the crashed airplane came from VMGR-452, a KC-130T unit operating from Stewart ANGB in New York state.
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'Landed' inverted.....poor souls.
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Leflore (le-FLOR') County Emergency Management Director Fred Randle told local media late Monday that 16 bodies were recovered after the KC-130 refueling tanker spiraled to the ground into a soybean field about 85 miles (135 kilometers) north of Jackson.
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It was a KC-130T, was it in an AAR mission and were any other aircraft involved?
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The video in Post #2 (towards the end, at 1:30) seems to indicate an absence of fuselage forward of the wings.
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Originally Posted by Thaihawk
A comment on facebook indicates the crashed airplane came from VMGR-452, a KC-130T unit operating from Stewart ANGB in New York state.
Can you point to the posting which states this? I live just a few miles from Stewart, and know several people in this unit. This is not good.
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16 crew in a tanker ? Doesn't quite add up...
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Originally Posted by bunta130
Strewth

'Landed' inverted.....poor souls.
From the look of those photos (can't see the videos from here due to firewall issues) I would suggest the impact was as near vertical as makes no difference - the momentum vector was straight down as witnessed by the very compact debris field and the (rather unusual) "trench" created by the wing impact.

Condolences to all with lost loved-ones.

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ITV midday news were saying the FBI have started an investigation into the crash.
No mention of suspicious cause but perhaps just a belt and braces approach to cover all eventualities,

RIP to those killed, thought and wishes to surviving familes.
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16 crew in a tanker ? Doesn't quite add up...
The KC designation just means that it is provisioned for tanking. The USMC use it for a lot more besides that, including troop transport.
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Obviously, much too early to say much. But these days, catastrophic accidents to modern aircraft operated by first-tier operators are rare indeed, as is the variance between early and final casualty counts.
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A comment on facebook indicates the crashed airplane came from VMGR-452, a KC-130T unit operating from Stewart ANGB in New York state.
Though the KC-130 refueling tanker took off from Marine Corps Air Station Cherry Point in North Carolina, Marine Capt. John Roberts said the plane was under the command of the 4th Marine Air Wing, which is part of the Marine Forces Reserve headquartered in New Orleans.
From the AP
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A statement from the Marine Corps Forces Reserve HQ:

The Marine aircraft that crashed Monday evening was a KC-130T from Marine Aerial Refueling and Transport Squadron (VMGR) 452, Marine Air Group-49, 4th Marine Aircraft Wing, Marine Forces Reserve. The flight originated from Marine Corps Air Station Cherry Point, N.C., as the squadron was supporting a requirement to transport personnel and equipment from there to Naval Air Field El Centro, Calif.

The crew and passengers consisted of 15 Marines and one Navy Corpsman. Equipment on board included various small arms ammunition and personal weapons. An Explosive Ordnance Disposal team is at the scene as a precaution in the interest of safety.

The identities of the personnel whose lives were lost in this tragic accident are still being withheld to allow time for their loved ones to be notified appropriately. While the details of the incident are being investigated, our focus remains on providing the necessary resources and support to the family and friends of these service members as they go through this extremely difficult time.
https://www.dvidshub.net/news/240743...hes-killing-16

There were earlier news reports of another stop enroute, possibly Memphis, but I haven't seen this confirmed:

CNN affiliates WDBD and WHBQ, citing officials they didn't name, reported the plane had stopped in Memphis, Tennessee.
Marine Corps KC-130 crashes in Mississippi, 16 dead - CNN.com

Video | FOX13
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Originally Posted by Airbubba
A statement from the Marine Corps Forces Reserve HQ:



https://www.dvidshub.net/news/240743...hes-killing-16

There were earlier news reports of another stop enroute, possibly Memphis, but I haven't seen this confirmed:



Marine Corps KC-130 crashes in Mississippi, 16 dead - CNN.com

Video | FOX13
This particular flight might have originated from Cherry Point, North Carolina, but VMGR-452, the unit the aircraft and crew belong to, is based at Stewart Air National Guard Base at Stewart Airport, Newburgh, NY.
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The KC designation just means that it is provisioned for tanking. The USMC use it for a lot more besides that, including troop transport.
Thanks for the clarification. My very ignorant guess would have been that the tanker mod / equipment would preclude most other uses.
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Looking at the video of the crash site, and the inverted wreck, it seems to show the right horizontal stabilizer and elevator snapped off several feet from the fuselage, while the left HS and elevator are intact. The underside of the left elevator and stump right elevator show heavy sooting while the underside of both stabs show none.
That would seem to indicate that the elevators were deflected in the nose down position to get sooted.
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