Top Gun 2

[VinRouge]

Will the plot line invoke a load of post-pension point US Navy Fast Jet mates monking on about getting paid what they are worth, too much triv, how much the FRI is worth and whether they are posted to Staff or Predator?

[NickB]

Originally Posted by DirtyProp

Slight thread drift: I read somewhere (forgot where, sorry) that the bird maintenance-wise was an absolute nightmare: on average for every flight hour it needed 40 hours of fixing, and it wasn't exactly an easy job either.
Can anyone shed some light?

Are you referring to McGillis?

[Martin the Martian]

Thanks, NickB. I now have coffee all over my keyboard.

[gr4techie]

Originally Posted by Less Hair

Top Gun became so popular back then that the USN re-introduced leather flight jackets afterwards. This time it might be a gold coloured "Maverick"-drone controller or similar?

I read somewhere that TopGun was the best thing that ever happened for US Navy recruitment. When the film was in the cinema, recruitment applications went through the roof.

on average for every flight hour it needed 40 hours of fixing, and it wasn't exactly an easy job either.

Sounds just like any other old jet, I wonder if their difficulties were getting spares too? It wouldn't surprise me if ours were close to that flying hour to maintenance man-hours ratio.

But I could imagine having a see-off snag on a busy carrier flight deck would be undesirable when the unserviceable aircraft is blocking every other aircraft movement?

[West Coast]

Sharkie Ward cameo appearance just announced!

That'll add a missing flair to the movie.

[EricsLad]

Groucho Marx - hosting a TV quiz show in the 1950s.

Blokey wins $10000 .

Blokey says that he is going to write a book.

"Goose" gets more flights than the others so as to film repeated "doing the Linda Blair".

Groucho Marx - to - the making of Top Gun - not bad.

[IcePaq]

The young hotshot pilots at tailhook don't drink anymore...............but you will find a few mig killers possibly saying "you pansies would piss your pants if a mig got your six" after some drinks.

Guys at tailhook are true professionals and most of the bravado is gone.

[DirtyProp]

Originally Posted by gr4techie

I read somewhere that TopGun was the best thing that ever happened for US Navy recruitment. When the film was in the cinema, recruitment applications went through the roof.

Same in Italy. It was the best advertising ever.

Sounds just like any other old jet, I wonder if their difficulties were getting spares too? It wouldn't surprise me if ours were close to that flying hour to maintenance man-hours ratio.

Found the article:

You Thought Cooking Your Turkey Was Tough? Try Maintaining An F-14!
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[tartare]

That is very interesting.

[T28B]

Originally Posted by IcePaq

The young hotshot pilots at tailhook don't drink anymore...............but you will find a few mig killers possibly saying "you pansies would piss your pants if a mig got your six" after some drinks.

Guys at tailhook are true professionals and most of the bravado is gone.

Hadn't Top Gun (Navy Fighter Weapons School) moved from NAS Miramar to NAS Fallon some years ago?

[West Coast]

Prior to the transition from NAS to MCAS Miramar they moved.

[unmanned_droid]

Originally Posted by Kerosene Kraut

This is the Grumman movie that inspired them to do Top Gun due to the cinema-style camera pods that had become available.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97BY8y7OAuA
Still better than the movie afterwards.

Thanks, I enjoyed watching this.

Here's another Good Grumman video:

Air Combat Manoeuvring


I had never heard the A-4 referred to as a Mongoose before watching the above.

[SpazSinbad]

"The Mongoose A-4 had the P-408 engine [11,200 lbf thrust] installed, no avionics hump, as much hardware removed as possible to lighten the aircraft, the slats wired permanently up; and was an amazing performer with a greater than 1:1 thrust to weight ratio.” http://navalaviationnews.navylive.do...s-F-14_WEB.jpg

10 page PDF attached with info/photos of 'MONGOOSE' & 'Super Fox' Adversary USN A-4 Skyhawk aircraft.

“A VFC-12 A-4 and VF-101 F-14 square off during a training flight in June 1989. The reserve squadron based at NAS Oceana provides adversary services for many Navy squadrons, while VF-101 was the fleet replacement squadron (FRS) for Atlantic Fleet Tomcat squadrons. (Photo by Peter B. Mersky)”

[WhatsaLizad?]

Originally Posted by gr4techie

I read somewhere that TopGun was the best thing that ever happened for US Navy recruitment. When the film was in the cinema, recruitment applications went through the roof.

I can attest to the above comment. Before TopGun was released, I routinely ran across US Navy recruiters flying the T-34 sharing the ramp with us as they traveled the US while I was flying right seat for Learjet charter outfits. I was in my senior year at a US College at the time and casually conversed with them about requirements and timelines to training. My lame 2.5 GPA as a Business Marketing Major seemed good enough to get me a slot in Pensacola.


Before graduating with my Degree a short time later, TopGun was released. After that, things changed. At the same time I had the feeling regarding my flying job, which could be described as a feeling like, "Is this all there is?"


The next time I ran into a Navy recruiter, he told me it was too late. Their average guy was a Electrical Engineering Major with a 3.9+ GPA.


Oh well. All those guys are very junior to me at my airline.

[BEagle]

Oh well. All those guys are very junior to me at my airline.

But they haven't had 25 years of flying cargo planes full of rubber dog $hit out of Hong Kong!

[Captain Dart]

I've done that! I'm not beneath hauling plastic vomit as well.

[SpazSinbad]

That's 314 pounds [with no ammo] of jammin' nightmare. Usually 75 rounds per gun carried instead of 100 was part of the jammy solution.

[SpazSinbad]

Watch: Top Gun: 31 Years Later – Buzzing the Tower & Tom Cruise About Getting Sick in the F-14 26 May 2017

https://fightersweep.com/7897/watch-...ing-sick-f-14/

[unmanned_droid]

SpazSinbad and OK465, thanks for the extra info, I consider myself educated!

I bet the Mongoose was fun to fly, even if you couldn't actually fight with it like that.

[SpazSinbad]

Page 7 of the 10 page PDF attached overleaf makes it clear:

“...The Blues/Mongoose Skyhawks really were like rockets. When you jam accelerated for take off there was a noticeable push back into the seat and the post take off gear up, flaps up had to happen as fast as you read this, so as to not over speed the landing gear or flaps. If you had been cleared for an unrestricted climb you could leave the throttle at take off power; but you had to move the stick aft to the stop initially and establish a rate of climb above what the VSI could display to stay below the 250 knots below 10,000 feet limit. And you watched the air station rapidly shrink in your mirrors. If you had not been cleared for an unrestricted climb, then you retarded the throttle to 85%.

An Adversary A-4E with a mini bubble [I think this means a small 1,000 pound drop tank on centreline] could do an Immelman on take off with ease. These jets were a really good simulation of a Mig 17, but they were more maneuverable than that Mig model. Needless to say, flying these Skyhawks was always a lot of fun, but then flying any Skyhawk was always a treat for me....” Gary “Zoo” Rezeau