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Grateful for that 
I apologise silently for adding to their workload, but then they shouldn't have offered
PS: Why don't they offer to email .pdf files? Or perhaps they will, as they wanted my email address. It would save me having to scan 1.63 kg of A4
I apologise silently for adding to their workload, but then they shouldn't have offered
PS: Why don't they offer to email .pdf files? Or perhaps they will, as they wanted my email address. It would save me having to scan 1.63 kg of A4
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
MPN, when you make an FOI request I believe you can specify the format you would prefer. I think it might apply to Subject Access Requests.
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I promise to post suitable extracts
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Never had an "annual report" as an LAC, SAC or Cpl 1959-73. Just a number from 1 to 9 in 3 categories and a "fitted/not fitted for promotion" recommendation. I did have an "interview" one flight commander when I was in the commcen at Akrotiri, he was concerned that I was not playing a full role in the station's social life (the station strength was about 12,000 at this time). He was suitably subdued after I diplomatically pointed out that over the previous 2 years I'd been a committee member then Secretary, Treasurer and finally Chairman of the Corporal's Club.
he was concerned that I was not playing a full role in the station's social life
Although, to be honest, I doubt it enhanced my reputation with the boss.
Nigerian In Law
Anyone know what the Army form number was for an Army Confidential/Annual report from 1974 to 1990 ? It's probably changed by now, like most things.
I'll just ask for "medical records" for my entire service but I guess they'll want the form number for Confidentials.
NEO
I'll just ask for "medical records" for my entire service but I guess they'll want the form number for Confidentials.
NEO
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
NEO, no, just make a subject access request for all records.
On a different tack, I suppose you could ask while in the Service and even seek redress though I suspect too much time has lapsed since confidentiality was removed.
On a different tack, I suppose you could ask while in the Service and even seek redress though I suspect too much time has lapsed since confidentiality was removed.
Herod
I hope you not as disappointed as I was when I received my 'docs' from Cranwell.
Mine consisted of one and a half sides of foolscap with list of all the postings and promotions covering 24 years. - That was it !!
Aaron.
Mine consisted of one and a half sides of foolscap with list of all the postings and promotions covering 24 years. - That was it !!
Aaron.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Aaron, you possibly got what you asked for. I got that Record of Service and it only covered from computerization, but that is all I asked for. There were discrepancies between that and my log book and I had it amended.
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Anyone know what the Army form number was for an Army Confidential/Annual report from 1974 to 1990 ? It's probably changed by now, like most things.
I'll just ask for "medical records" for my entire service but I guess they'll want the form number for Confidentials.
NEO
I'll just ask for "medical records" for my entire service but I guess they'll want the form number for Confidentials.
NEO
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Just send mine off "asked for all they have on me in the 23 years?"
Either artic inbound or one piece of A4. Probably the latter.
Guess they may be getting busy up there?
Either artic inbound or one piece of A4. Probably the latter.
Guess they may be getting busy up there?
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SPVA
Speak to SPVA at Kentigern House, Glasgow to get forms (x2 = 1 for request, 1 for consent)
I got my Grandfathers records, unfortunately not in time for Xmas 2011!
Got a framed montage of him = Grandad's Wedding Photo, Dad & Uncle, RE Emblems, Grandad in Italy 1944, Mounted Medals for my Dad's Xmas Pres 2011 & delayed Service Record
All I got by Xmas (about 6mths delay) was a bulky envelope saying:
"We are experiencing a high demand in requests, you can have your non-refundable fee back, or await our response, which could be 9-12 months"
I "awaited" and got the response in ~Mar/Apr/May 2012, contact ...........for RAF/RN/Army/RM/etc (eventually arrived ready for Dad's Birthday in June 12)
Needs 1st surviving NoK to sign for request, & Death Cert (£10) for individual (if not you!)
.....and it arrives on ****ty brown recycled photocopied paper!!!!!!!!!
I got my Grandfathers records, unfortunately not in time for Xmas 2011!
Got a framed montage of him = Grandad's Wedding Photo, Dad & Uncle, RE Emblems, Grandad in Italy 1944, Mounted Medals for my Dad's Xmas Pres 2011 & delayed Service Record
All I got by Xmas (about 6mths delay) was a bulky envelope saying:
"We are experiencing a high demand in requests, you can have your non-refundable fee back, or await our response, which could be 9-12 months"
I "awaited" and got the response in ~Mar/Apr/May 2012, contact ...........for RAF/RN/Army/RM/etc (eventually arrived ready for Dad's Birthday in June 12)
Needs 1st surviving NoK to sign for request, & Death Cert (£10) for individual (if not you!)
.....and it arrives on ****ty brown recycled photocopied paper!!!!!!!!!
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A career's worth of F1369 just delivered ... in 17 days.
Now for the uncomfortable bit: reading what they really thought of me!
Now for the uncomfortable bit: reading what they really thought of me!
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OK, that has been a VERY interesting read. It revealed things I knew, and things I didn't know, and things about some people reporting on me that surprised me.
RAF Disclosures did that for me
I think I'm glad I did it, and some ROs have actually risen in my estimation. I just wish that they had been more detailed, and constructive, in some of their debriefs instead of just putting it down on paper.
A bit late to change now!!
- I was a bit of an immature prat as a plt off/fg off. OK, I knew that, but they accepted I was good at my job.
- Identified as ambitious. Is that a bad thing?
- I matured rather later than I thought. Oh, well, I think I've almost got there now.
- I annoyed people more than I realised, by being intolerant and over-assertive in the earlier years. Ooops.
- A couple of 1st ROs that I though would have slagged me off were actually quite complimentary.
- Air Officers as 2nd or 3rd ROs [and even 4th] provide an interesting filter to what had been said previously!
- On my last MoD tour, the late Lord Garden noticed I had lost interest ... but never enquired why. I told him at my [brief] farewell interview when he was ACAS.
- On that same tour, the Scottish One Star lied, and did NOT debrief me on my shortcomings.
Originally Posted by R Burns
O wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!
To see oursels as ithers see us!
I think I'm glad I did it, and some ROs have actually risen in my estimation. I just wish that they had been more detailed, and constructive, in some of their debriefs instead of just putting it down on paper.
A bit late to change now!!
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Who's next?
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I received mine a few years ago when I was asking for information that would enable me to show qualification equivalency. In addition to the information that I actually needed they sent me the full package. It was an interesting read, but didn't really show anything that I didn't already know.
From a point of view much lower down the food chain:
I thought that it was an interesting read and overall a fairly accurate reflection of who I was, and continue to be. I disagree with one or two observations, but IMHO, the system seemed to work within certain limitations.
TTFN
From a point of view much lower down the food chain:
- I was an immature pillock as a 19 year old JT in Belize. No complaints from me on that score.
- I was routinely praised for efficiency and equally routinely criticized for not letting everyone know that I had been efficient. Apparently making a noise about doing my job was expected.
- Working away from my trade stream had a negative effect on my promotion prospects. Essentially there was only me and no-one had any point of reference. As a result my numbers were average despite the write-ups being extremely positive.
- My final write-up was fascinating, but by that point irrelevant. The RO commented on the tardiness of my promotions and the difficulties that previous ROs had faced in effectively assessing my performance against my peers and, in his opinion, the lack of effort made to retain "a highly experienced and qualified SNCO". While I appreciated the sentiment it made little practical difference.
I thought that it was an interesting read and overall a fairly accurate reflection of who I was, and continue to be. I disagree with one or two observations, but IMHO, the system seemed to work within certain limitations.
TTFN
