North Korea!
Even I can understand this short explanation of DPRK's latest missile. (Posting on both threads as it probably has relevance to everyone.)
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/n...0516154555544/
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/n...0516154555544/
Great shot of some far-east manoeuvres.
https://japantoday.com/category/nati...rean-peninsula
https://japantoday.com/category/nati...rean-peninsula
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There is a Japanese ship between them that did not get a mention in the picture.
Yes, that is strange!
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Young-fat-un has a good laugh with his top brass as he pulls 'Mig-15' out of the hat for the aircraft in his version of the Confederate Air Force which will get closest to the US carriers..... North Korea's Kim Jong-Un grins at air force display | Daily Mail Online
I'll give their Mig15/17s some credit. There wings didn't fall off even if they are seventy years old.
The last ones I saw in China was about twenty years ago and they had been abandoned for some time then.
The last ones I saw in China was about twenty years ago and they had been abandoned for some time then.
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Mind, if their wings fell off how would we ever hear of it ? Love to see the Nor K AF accident figures and accident reports ( if such things ever exist). I wonder who carries the can ? I guess I know what happens to them.
On Reuters:-
And on the Guardian website
North Korea fired a projectile that appeared to be a missile shortly before midnight Japan time (1500 GMT) on Friday, Japan's public broadcaster NHK said, citing government officials.
The apparent missile may have landed in Japan's exclusive economic zone, NHK said.
The apparent missile may have landed in Japan's exclusive economic zone, NHK said.
Japan’s prime minister has said North Korea fired what is believed to be a missile that may have landed in the sea off Japan.
Prime Minister Shinzo Abe told reporters that officials were analysing the apparent launch, just before midnight on Friday, and that he had called a meeting of the National Security Council. He said Japan would take every necessary step to ensure the safety of its citizens.
In Washington, a Pentagon spokesman, Navy Capt Jeff Davis, confirmed that a launch of a ballistic missile from North Korea had been detected.
He said: “We are assessing and will have more information soon.”
Prime Minister Shinzo Abe told reporters that officials were analysing the apparent launch, just before midnight on Friday, and that he had called a meeting of the National Security Council. He said Japan would take every necessary step to ensure the safety of its citizens.
In Washington, a Pentagon spokesman, Navy Capt Jeff Davis, confirmed that a launch of a ballistic missile from North Korea had been detected.
He said: “We are assessing and will have more information soon.”
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When we buy and build and field thermonuclear weapons it is a GOOD thing
When the N Koreans do it it is a BAD thing
TBH anyone who can should ... if they want to stay independent........
When the N Koreans do it it is a BAD thing
TBH anyone who can should ... if they want to stay independent........
I couldn't think of a more stable, rational and logical man than Donald Trump being in charge of nuclear weapons.......;-)
Qaddafi's decision to abandon his nuclear program was swiftly followed by his overthrow. As a result, no rational observer or politician could suggest going non-nuclear in the future. I'd be astonished if Venezuela did not have nuclear program at this point, it is just life insurance.
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been rumoured for years that the Sauids put up a lot of the money for the pakistan bomb programme on the understanding they'd be able to get one at short notice if threatened by Iran or Israel
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They have them - or have I missed something?
I think it' a muderous regime and the world would be a safer place if they didn't have them BUT
strip out the emotion and look at etudiant's point - it is a logical thing to acquire if you are capable of building one. A lot of people think Saddam would still be around if he'd had a bomb......... and they don't fancy finishing up like Gaddafi
I think it' a muderous regime and the world would be a safer place if they didn't have them BUT
strip out the emotion and look at etudiant's point - it is a logical thing to acquire if you are capable of building one. A lot of people think Saddam would still be around if he'd had a bomb......... and they don't fancy finishing up like Gaddafi
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No doubt that the "red button" should not be in hands of mad of too nervous people (like that hamster). The Chinese can do a lot indeed, but I am not sure they can stop him entirely. Perhaps only slow down that programme.
So, what to do? This question was re-iterated several times in this thread, and it's obvious that the main problem is potential massive casulties of civil population of South Korea in case shooting of any kind finally starts. Recall that even back in early 90's Clinton and his defense minister were considering a strike to destroy the NK reactor, but the analysis ended with such a conclusion. Nothing really changed since that...
I wonder if the US are really going for a demonstration that they can intercept the NK missile during one of the upcoming tests? THAAD would not help here, but AeGIS cruisers can potentially work it out. Would be interesting to see how/whether AeGIS and SM-3 work against such targets.
So, what to do? This question was re-iterated several times in this thread, and it's obvious that the main problem is potential massive casulties of civil population of South Korea in case shooting of any kind finally starts. Recall that even back in early 90's Clinton and his defense minister were considering a strike to destroy the NK reactor, but the analysis ended with such a conclusion. Nothing really changed since that...
I wonder if the US are really going for a demonstration that they can intercept the NK missile during one of the upcoming tests? THAAD would not help here, but AeGIS cruisers can potentially work it out. Would be interesting to see how/whether AeGIS and SM-3 work against such targets.
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Hmmm - might work
Cruiser shoots down missile
NK lobs several IRBM at cruiser (or its base) = causus belli for intervention before they have a workeable ICBM ...........................
Cruiser shoots down missile
NK lobs several IRBM at cruiser (or its base) = causus belli for intervention before they have a workeable ICBM ...........................
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Thinking more about the issue[s], following the latest News, how did this primitive, starving, agricultural dictatorship achieve these capabilities?
Did Hun-Gree Wun and family suddenly emerge from his rice paddy and start doing this high-level technology? Or, more sensibly, WHO helped them achieve this? And WHO is now voting against NK in the Security Council, having realised they've let a genie out of the bottle on their own border[s]? Bit late, Comrades, but thanks to you both for the vote.
The more I worry about NK, the more I feel that (with the concurrene of China and Russia) a preemptive strike by the US on NK's nuclear and technology targets is the only credible solution. And it's in China's and Russia's interests, as much as the West's and the rest of SE Asia.
Did Hun-Gree Wun and family suddenly emerge from his rice paddy and start doing this high-level technology? Or, more sensibly, WHO helped them achieve this? And WHO is now voting against NK in the Security Council, having realised they've let a genie out of the bottle on their own border[s]? Bit late, Comrades, but thanks to you both for the vote.
The more I worry about NK, the more I feel that (with the concurrene of China and Russia) a preemptive strike by the US on NK's nuclear and technology targets is the only credible solution. And it's in China's and Russia's interests, as much as the West's and the rest of SE Asia.
They are starving because of the massive effort put into other things.
It is 72 years since V2 and Bomb #1, lots of engineering that was incredibly difficult in 1945 is absolutely routine today, even in N.K.. Lots, not all, of the physics is now known to anyone with a good university education. Doubtless N.K. will have taken help where it could be found but it isn't beyond reason to think they could have done it all themselves.
It is 72 years since V2 and Bomb #1, lots of engineering that was incredibly difficult in 1945 is absolutely routine today, even in N.K.. Lots, not all, of the physics is now known to anyone with a good university education. Doubtless N.K. will have taken help where it could be found but it isn't beyond reason to think they could have done it all themselves.