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I wonder what was the last wholly-British (built) fighter aircraft, was it English Electric Lightning some 50+ years ago?
Jaguar was Anglo-French,Tornado was/is Anglo-German-Italian, and Typhoon was/is Anglo-Italo-Franco-Germano-Spanish.
Then good luck with Mitsubishi, which cannot even build a regional jet (promised to roll it out in 2015, but now 2020 seems more realistic).
Jaguar was Anglo-French,Tornado was/is Anglo-German-Italian, and Typhoon was/is Anglo-Italo-Franco-Germano-Spanish.
Then good luck with Mitsubishi, which cannot even build a regional jet (promised to roll it out in 2015, but now 2020 seems more realistic).
I wonder what was the last wholly-British (built) fighter aircraft, was it English Electric Lightning some 50+ years ago?
Jaguar was Anglo-French,Tornado was/is Anglo-German-Italian, and Typhoon was/is Anglo-Italo-Franco-Germano-Spanish.
Then good luck with Mitsubishi, which cannot even build a regional jet (promised to roll it out in 2015, but now 2020 seems more realistic).
Jaguar was Anglo-French,Tornado was/is Anglo-German-Italian, and Typhoon was/is Anglo-Italo-Franco-Germano-Spanish.
Then good luck with Mitsubishi, which cannot even build a regional jet (promised to roll it out in 2015, but now 2020 seems more realistic).
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XR219, I have to pull you up on Tornado being conceived and in service before 1972, first flight of P01 was August 1974, so conceived and probably metal being cut, but not in service.
Id have to go with Shar, although I thought some were conversions of FRS1s.
Id have to go with Shar, although I thought some were conversions of FRS1s.
Most FA.2s were FRS.1 conversions, but there was also a batch of 18 new-builds ordered in 1994.
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To go back to trhe original questions, didn't Mitsubishi build the F-1 and T2 which had striking resemblances to Jaguar variants? If they were going to copy a western design they could have picked something that had decent engines......
History isn't helpful. Tornado sales efforts to Japan failed, Typhoon sales also look like a busted flush. The only success I can think of was the sale of a handful of HS125s for a maritime patrol role many years ago. Still, here's hoping...
Ultimately I expect the politics will come to the fore. Would anyone place a serious money bet against the USA coming out ahead?
The brexit complication for any future European collaborative efforts will be in the area of goods crossing borders (followed closely by people crossing the same).
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Ultimately I expect the politics will come to the fore. Would anyone place a serious money bet against the USA coming out ahead?
The brexit complication for any future European collaborative efforts will be in the area of goods crossing borders (followed closely by people crossing the same).
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"They want IPR transfer, collaboration, co-industrialisation..."
You might be surprised at how much transfer was involved in the Typhoon offers for Japan and India...
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You might be surprised at how much transfer was involved in the Typhoon offers for Japan and India...
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Japan and UK to collaborate on missile development
TOKYO -- Japan will team with the U.K. to develop an air-to-air missile, Tokyo's first defense equipment project with a partner other than the U.S. and a potential turning point for the country's arms export policy.
The planned weapon will incorporate a powerful radar system developed by Mitsubishi Electric into European manufacturer MBDA's Meteor missile, combining long range and high accuracy. A prototype will be built at an MBDA plant starting in fiscal 2018. Live-fire testing in the U.K. is slated to begin as early as fiscal 2023, at which point Japan and the U.K. will decide whether to put the weapon into mass production.
Deployment is expected in the late 2020s. The missile likely will become equipment on the F-35 stealth fighter to be used by Japan's Air Self-Defense Force, and it could be used to defend far-flung Japanese territories such as the Senkaku Islands, which China claims as the Diaoyu. Exports to countries such as Germany and France will be considered as well.
Japan and the U.K. look to announce the collaboration, which upgrades an existing research arrangement, in a joint statement after a meeting of their top diplomatic and defense officials Dec. 14 in London.......
A collaboration using Japan's advanced defense technology could strengthen the country's relationship with the U.K., which Tokyo considers a "quasi-ally," while boosting its own capabilities. But it remains hard to say how much technology London will offer in exchange for Tokyo's. A former Air Self-Defense Force general said that "if the U.K. hands engine technology over to Japan, we can use it to develop anti-ship missiles and other weapons as well."......
TOKYO -- Japan will team with the U.K. to develop an air-to-air missile, Tokyo's first defense equipment project with a partner other than the U.S. and a potential turning point for the country's arms export policy.
The planned weapon will incorporate a powerful radar system developed by Mitsubishi Electric into European manufacturer MBDA's Meteor missile, combining long range and high accuracy. A prototype will be built at an MBDA plant starting in fiscal 2018. Live-fire testing in the U.K. is slated to begin as early as fiscal 2023, at which point Japan and the U.K. will decide whether to put the weapon into mass production.
Deployment is expected in the late 2020s. The missile likely will become equipment on the F-35 stealth fighter to be used by Japan's Air Self-Defense Force, and it could be used to defend far-flung Japanese territories such as the Senkaku Islands, which China claims as the Diaoyu. Exports to countries such as Germany and France will be considered as well.
Japan and the U.K. look to announce the collaboration, which upgrades an existing research arrangement, in a joint statement after a meeting of their top diplomatic and defense officials Dec. 14 in London.......
A collaboration using Japan's advanced defense technology could strengthen the country's relationship with the U.K., which Tokyo considers a "quasi-ally," while boosting its own capabilities. But it remains hard to say how much technology London will offer in exchange for Tokyo's. A former Air Self-Defense Force general said that "if the U.K. hands engine technology over to Japan, we can use it to develop anti-ship missiles and other weapons as well."......
This has the potential to be a 'good' thing for both parties, especially in the uncertain environment in which Japan finds herself today, as long as Japan understands that there has to be a solid trade-off for the UK too.
