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A Walt in court...

Old 11th Mar 2017, 22:54
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Damn, beat me to it!! Some of the content of that article that wasn't previously in the public domain will be heard in front of a judge within the next month, so I'm sure there will be much more coming out about this young chap!
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Old 12th Mar 2017, 01:49
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Sounds much like Robert Weaver a la the thread on another PPRuNe story. I shake my head after 16800+ hrs of commercial helicopters how these Walts manage to last so long!!!!!
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Old 12th Mar 2017, 03:41
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200lts of Avgas from the C421 then 80lts from the Saratoga. Nobody could work it out at the time
It isn't the theft of the fuel that is the main concern, light aircraft guages are notoriously inaccurate and it isn't possible to dip the tanks on everything, therefore someone loading the family knowing he filled it the night before might suddenly find himself over sh*t creek with no powered paddles.
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Old 12th Mar 2017, 11:37
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200lts of Avgas from the C421 then 80lts from the Saratoga. Nobody could work it out at the time

Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post
It isn't the theft of the fuel that is the main concern, light aircraft guages are notoriously inaccurate and it isn't possible to dip the tanks on everything, therefore someone loading the family knowing he filled it the night before might suddenly find himself over sh*t creek with no powered paddles.
Not relevant. See post #56 above. Long time before Tierney was at NW.
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Old 12th Mar 2017, 14:17
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Originally Posted by UV View Post
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200lts of Avgas from the C421 then 80lts from the Saratoga. Nobody could work it out at the time



Not relevant. See post #56 above. Long time before Tierney was at NW.
The 200lts from the C421 was stolen between 22nd December 2011 and 2nd January 2012.

The 80lts from the Saratoga was stolen between 17th May 2013 and 28th May 2013.

When did Tierney take-up the position at NW?

I wouldn't say, not relevant quite yet.
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Old 12th Mar 2017, 14:45
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Originally Posted by newfieboy View Post
Sounds much like Robert Weaver a la the thread on another PPRuNe story. I shake my head after 16800+ hrs of commercial helicopters how these Walts manage to last so long!!!!!
Don't jest! I am unsure if someone was just having a laugh with me but they said Tierney had on his CV that he was/had been a ferry pilot for Classic Wings.
They went on to say that Tierney was gingers London,UK representative. I could see the funny side and took it as a wind-up, but who knows???
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Old 12th Mar 2017, 18:57
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Tierney did indeed claim in writing on his CV to be a Ferry Pilot for Classic Wings. Classic Wings are aware of these claims. These claims are very false.

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Old 12th Mar 2017, 20:50
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Originally Posted by Rallye Driver View Post
The allegation from the Flyer forum is also wrong. No one was sacked for stealing Avgas. Someone did resign for a separate, non-aviation related incident. That was several years ago, well before Tierney worked at the Airfield.
You seemingly appear to know the answer to this... At what date did Tierney start working for EFDC at NW?
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Old 12th Mar 2017, 21:04
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Originally Posted by Tengah Type View Post
Fournier Boy and MPN11 #91 & 92

Running Brize Operations before the age of 25 was possible, as after 2005 a couple
of lady first tourists were Duty Operations Controllers. Between 1998 and 2012 there was nobody
" Covering the Duty Operations Controller" Usually it would be the Ops Corporal covering for the minutes
you were visiting Met or taking a natural break.

Nobody called Tierney worked in Brize Ops between 1998 and 2012.
I'm pretty sure he was on an ATC overseas camp in Cyprus in 2006 as a Cadet (maybe 2007) when I was an escorting officer (not from my Wing though - I'm fairly certain he was in Herts & Bucks Wing), so he would only have been about 15 or 16 at the time.
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Old 12th Mar 2017, 21:05
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The ultimate Walt:-

Quote:
A man sees a sign in a house window - 'Talking Dog For Sale.' He rings the doorbell, the owner appears and tells him the dog can be viewed in the back garden.
The man sees a very nice looking black Labrador sitting there.

"Do you really talk?" he asks the dog.

"Yes," the Labrador replies.

After recovering from the shock of hearing the dog talk, the man asks, "So, tell me your story."

The Labrador looks up and says, "Well, I discovered that I could talk when I was pretty young. I wanted to help society, so I applied to join the SAS. In no time at all they had me jetting from country to country, sitting in rooms with spies and world leaders, because no one imagined that a dog would be eavesdropping. I was one of their most valuable spies for eight years".

"But the jetting around really tired me out, and I knew I wasn't getting any younger so I decided to settle down. I signed up for a job at Heathrow Airport to do some undercover security work, wandering near suspicious characters and listening in. I uncovered some incredible dealings and was awarded several medals".

"Then I got married, had a few puppies, and now I've just retired."

The man is amazed. He goes back into the house and asks the owner how much he wants for the dog.

"Ten quid," the owner says.

"10!!? But your dog is absolutely amazing! Why on earth are you selling him so cheaply?"

"Because he's a lying bastard, he's never been out of the garden."
I know, I know - hat, coat, door...

Thanks for making my dad's hernia a whole lot worse!
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Old 12th Mar 2017, 21:15
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Well I have found the EFDC North Weald Operations Manager job description advertisement, however, I cannot see any closing date.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...2WaAhUEfh-OhQg

When you're ready 'Rallye Driver' or 'UV'.
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Old 12th Mar 2017, 23:22
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According to his CV he started at North Weald in Aug 14 - however, seeing as his CV is riddled with lies then it isn't exactly safe to trust it!
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Old 13th Mar 2017, 08:15
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That statement is correct
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Old 13th Mar 2017, 08:52
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That is disappointing. What that now effectively means is that the Avgas fuel thief is still at large at North Weald.


*Edit - Rallye Driver - what particular part of that statement do you agree with as being correct?

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Old 13th Mar 2017, 11:17
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That he started at NWA as an Ops Officer in August 2014
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Old 6th Apr 2017, 18:47
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Just an update for those interested. Tierney is due back in court on the 12th April to answer theft charges, more to follow on the day...
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Old 6th Apr 2017, 22:04
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Yes, and I hope he is judged accordingly....
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Old 7th Apr 2017, 11:51
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So a Senior Officer making an informed decision based on the outcome of the Service Investigation into an accident that lead to the deaths of two young cadets is now an Idiot!! Your arrogance staggers me.
+1. Although wasn't it the second midair (ie the one where only one cadet died plus the pilot) which lead to the cull of KOSs?

I believe these types can only fly until age 65 nowadays too, leading to the loss of many very experienced AEF pilots when some idiot changed the rules.
And anyway it's 60 not 65.
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Old 14th Apr 2017, 19:48
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Tut tut

Originally Posted by tmmorris View Post
LJ VRT officers can hold acting paid rank when filling an established post in a rank higher than their substantive - that's very common indeed - and currently also acting unpaid Flt Lt after 9 years (though that is likely to be abolished). When relinquishing such a post they are usually granted permission to continue to use their acting rank, now unpaid. Again there are moves to stop the latter practice.

So, an ATC Sqn commander is likely to be A/Flt Lt/Pd; VGS commander would be Sqn Ldr, etc. Probably what you encountered was the current boss and his predecessor; but the second Sqn Ldr could also be holding a post elsewhere (wing staff or CCF contingent commander).
This happens all the time. Used to be a guy from Scotland who used to prance about in his VRT uniform all the time. He even got married in his uniform! These people give others a bad name! Normally they are easily identifiable, from what I remeber nobody from ACCGS much liked him as they knew exactly what he was like!

Such a good organisation can be spoiled by these Walter types. If you want it that badly, go work hard for it like the rest of us had to do!

Scary how it went unnoticed for quite so long!
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Old 15th Apr 2017, 09:32
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Those of you who have read Fate is the Hunter by Ernest K. Gann will remember the chapter on a pilot who was engaged as a pilot on a new commercial airline in the immediate post war years without being asked to show his licence. Only after a display of spectacular ineptitude lead to an immediate flight check was it discovered that not only did he not have an ATPL (or equivalent) but did not even have an instrument rating. Makes you wonder how many are still flying similarly unqualified.
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