US fighter jet 'in mid-air duel with Russian plane above Area 51'

[Rosevidney1]

Thank you, OMG. I have tried for many years to get hold of a MiG-19 FM.

[Airbubba]

Originally Posted by OMG Itz Fulovstarz

Hi Mr. Airbubba,

Apologies, got distracted after typing Oxcart, Tagboard, Kedlock and Earning into the search box!

Kedlock? I remember seeing one of those planes at the USAF Museum years ago. It was in the X-plane hangar, we missed one of the scheduled bus tours and were able to talk our way into the hangar unescorted with a relative's military ID. After a while, a docent appeared and he said that he had flown the YF-12A and the SR-71. I remember the name as something like Meacham but haven't been able to find it on any of the pertinent lists.

Thanks for the MiG manual links.

Actually, a lot of the prose in the English manuals looks better to me than in the early Airbus A300-600/A310 company manuals that were supposedly written in French and translated into English by a German.

[Airbubba]

Here's another good online resource for declassified information about the MiG's at Tonopah and Groom Lake:

The Area 51 File: Secret Aircraft and Soviet MiGs

The famous 'Det. 3 Security Manual' for the 'cammo dudes' is here.

Retired Colonel Mike Tarlton's LinkedIn listing gives an idea of how large recent operations are at Groom Lake:

Commander, Operations Group

United States Air Force

June 2010 – June 2012 (2 years 1 month)

Led 600+ military/contractor/government team comprised of 11 diverse squadrons conducting developmental and operational testing at a national test facility. Directed operations and maintenance for 25 aircraft types, and execute an $84M annual budget utilizing $4B in national assets.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-tarlton-227a1998

[West Coast]

Flew by it today on J-80 headed to SFO. A whole lot of something was parked on a ramp on the north side of the field, too far to make it out.

[Airbubba]

Originally Posted by West Coast

Flew by it today on J-80 headed to SFO. A whole lot of something was parked on a ramp on the north side of the field, too far to make it out.

Some databases show Groom Lake as KXTA (Xtra Terrestrial Airport ) Homey Airport.

Maybe they are the overflow parking lot for Red Flag 17-1:

Red Flag 17-1 kicks off at Nellis AFB > Nellis Air Force Base > News

[WhatsaLizad?]

Flew by it today on J-80 headed to SFO. A whole lot of something was parked on a ramp on the north side of the field, too far to make it out.

Do you mean Tonopah? One can usually get a good look at the old Red Eagles MIG/F117 Stealth base (with covered parking slots) on a good day.


I know we can see the Area 51 dark runway on the dry lake in the distance, but I've never gotten south enough to make out any structures let alone a flight line of flying saucers or a chemtrail squadron. )))

[West Coast]

Do you mean Tonopah? One can usually get a good look at the old Red Eagles MIG/F117 Stealth base (with covered parking slots) on a good day.

Yup, about 20 miles off the airway, wish I had binoculars with me.

I know we can see the Area 51 dark runway on the dry lake in the distance

Same, a couple of pilots I've flown with have the ATIS freq for the airport. Funny enough, it didn't name the airport when I've listened to it.

[Airbubba]

Originally Posted by West Coast

Same, a couple of pilots I've flown with have the ATIS freq for the airport. Funny enough, it didn't name the airport when I've listened to it.

Some sources list MCY as the Groom Lake VOR at 117.5 MHz with weather info. Give it a try next time you're in the neighborhood.

[Ewan Whosearmy]

<Thread revival>

CONSTANT PEG footage:

You Tube

[NutLoose]

Here is the Luftwaffles Mig 29 manual

http://www.jasonblair.net/wp-content...anual-Pt-1.pdf


it may be of interest

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soviet-Fl...-/162165407615


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Soviet-Flig...-/162626974409



interestingly they have included the Soviet’s thoughts on the Jaguar too... I wonder if it includes a lot of laughing?

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