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Old 19th Dec 2016, 15:38
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Russian Ambassador in Turkey Shot

Ongoing incident in Ankara. Russian ambassador was making a speech at an art exhibition when a gunman opened fire. Ambassador shot, condition unknown. Other casualties and an ongoing hostage situation reported.
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Home - BBC News

The Russian ambassador to Ankara, Andrei Karlov, has been wounded by a gunman while visiting a photo gallery in the Turkish capital.

Several other people were reportedly also injured in the attack, a day after protests in Turkey over Russia's military intervention in Syria.

According to Russian TV, the ambassador had been attending an exhibition called "Russia as seen by Turks". Police later "neutralised" the gunman, reports say, without giving details. Mr Karlov was rushed to hospital. Video of the event shows Mr Karlov making a speech when gunshots ring out.

The attacker shouted about Aleppo and Syria The camera pulls back to show a smartly dressed gunman, wearing a suit and tie, waving a pistol and shouting.
He can be heard yelling "Don't forget about Aleppo, don't forget about Syria" and uses the Islamic phrase "Allahu Akbar" (God is great").

US state department spokesman John Kirby said US officials were aware of reports about the attack on the ambassador.
"We condemn this act of violence, whatever its source," he said. "Our thoughts and prayers are with him and his family."

While there were protests in recent days, on a political level the Turkish and Russian governments have been co-operating in the Aleppo ceasefire operation, the BBC's Turkey correspondent, Mark Lowen, reports. It is too early to know the motives of the attacker, who has not yet been named. Some reports say he entered the art gallery using a police ID card, our correspondent adds.
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Home - BBC NewsThe Russian ambassador to Ankara, Andrei Karlov, has been wounded by a gunman while visiting a photo gallery in the Turkish capital.

He can be heard yelling "Don't forget about Aleppo, don't forget about Syria" and uses the Islamic phrase "Allahu Akbar" (God is great").

It is too early to know the motives of the attacker, who has not yet been named.
The search for answers continues...
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He's dead.

Russian ambassador to Turkey Andrei Karlov shot dead in Ankara - BBC News

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Embarrassing to NATO. RIP.
Although it might be part of a coordinated attack= Berlin now multiple deaths from another lorry attack on civvies.
More and more senseless deaths.
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You can see the film on jet blast, he didn't appear to have a chance. Poor guy.
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You can see the film on jet blast, he didn't appear to have a chance. Poor guy.
Any person who has been in contact with this guy in last month better be running to tell what they know. Last time Russians in Beirut acted quickly, I don't doubt they will do so again. Digital footprint will be available very quickly and they will track down.
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Embarrassing to NATO.
Nothing whatsoever to do with NATO. The Russians decided to get themselves involved in a civil/proxy war and this is the unsurprising result.
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This hasn't to do with NATO, it has to do with Syria. Not a NATO member. I seriously doubt that the Turkish government is anything but surprised, upset, and embarrassed.
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Absolutely. This is a lone wolf attack. Nothing more, nothing less. Putin didn't raise an eyebrow during his newscast.

It's the price he's paid to get a foothold in the middle east. In the years to come, Syria will be built with arab and russian money. There will be russian army and airforce bases. It is a significant coup for Putin.
And now that he's mates with Trump, what's to stop him encroaching on Syria's neighbours IDC?

ALL of this is because he's very angry that his predecessor buckled under Western expansionism. NATO have brought this on themselves and now they will suffer the slow but certain erosion of their eastern front for years to come.
Georgia, Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Trump - that'll do nicely thank you very much.
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It is interesting that the Russian Ambassador actually had a Turkish body guard, if that was what he was, not a Russian team.

If the assassin was on the Russian Embassy payroll, not sure that the career prospects for the head of security are too bright, unless the assassin came fully vetted etc by the Turks.
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Assassin was a Turkish armed policeman - who was given entry after showing his ID and telling security he had been sent as a reinforcement.
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Absolutely. This is a lone wolf attack. Nothing more, nothing less.
It wasn't me, I have an alibi. Your further digression belongs in one of the hamster wheels over on JB ...

This is a case of an "enemy within" and ideological poison.
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You can take the murderous Islamic hate-filled Syrians out of Syria, but you can't take the hate-filled murderousness out of Islam.
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Nonsense - nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with Great Power politics in Syria
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'Nonsense - nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with Great Power politics in Syria'

In that case why did he shout Allauha akhbar ?

You cannot know if it was or was not Islam, but what he shouted indicated it was Islam related.
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Islam is culturally imbedded in that whole area in and around the Levant. In a sense you are both wrong. To say "nothing to do with" ignores about 1400 years of cultural inertia. To say "must have to do with" is a gross oversimplification.

Example: man steps on a nail, in Nebraska, and it causes great pain as it enters his arch and buries itself about two inches deep in his foot.
He exclaims "Jesus Christ!"

So, is he using a culturally common term of phrase or is he a Christian fundamentalist by default? (And if he's a Christian, ohmigod, didn't he know that his book tells him not to use the Lord's name in vain? ) Or is it "nothing to do with Christianity, stop defaming Christians!"
Y'all get my drift?



@onetrack: thanks for stirring the pot, you got two people to bite. (Three if I'm included since I responded to them).

This thread is about some who shot an ambassador who was in a museum interacting with the public in the country who he was representing his nation to. In short, a guy gets shot while doing his job, a job that is generally intended as a peaceful/positive role.

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Lone wolf,

It was a pleasure to read your latest. Whilst I have no sympathy with the idiots who claim to be acting in the name of Allah, your analysis brings an element of balance to the discussion.
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And this story is Military aviation related in what way????
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The amassador had a Weber BBQ. Back in the day.

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