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Old 11th Jul 2019, 00:12
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Now where were we.....oh...yes....dealing with playground bully's we were discussing.

It seems five Iranian Revolutionary Guard Gun Boats tried to seize a UK Oil Tanker....until the Royal Navy Frigate showed up and pointed the Ship's guns at the bad boys.

The Iranians elected to have a run ashore in lieu of boarding the Tanker it seems.

Odd that....show the Bully Boys they are going to get their hind ends kicked and they leg it.

Not much changes over the years when it comes to stuff....really.

If you appease them...they only grow bolder......remember that "Peace in our time...." stuff from yesterday year?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nker-Gulf.html
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Originally Posted by SASless
Now where were we.....oh...yes....dealing with playground bully's we were discussing.

It seems five Iranian Revolutionary Guard Gun Boats tried to seize a UK Oil Tanker....until the Royal Navy Frigate showed up and pointed the Ship's guns at the bad boys.

The Iranians elected to have a run ashore in lieu of boarding the Tanker it seems.

Odd that....show the Bully Boys they are going to get their hind ends kicked and they leg it.

Not much changes over the years when it comes to stuff....really.

If you appease them...they only grow bolder......remember that "Peace in our time...." stuff from yesterday year?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nker-Gulf.html
So no attempt to board, no warning to stop just they happened to be in the same area which is their territorial water. Looks like Foriegn Office PR Dept is at work.
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Old 11th Jul 2019, 09:35
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Looks like Foriegn Office PR Dept is at work.
That's what everything looks like to you, racedo. If the boot's on the other foot though, then no questions asked.
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Old 11th Jul 2019, 10:11
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no warning to stop
A British Ministry of Defense source told CNN that it "appeared that the Iranian vessels were trying to divert the Heritage from international to Iranian waters" before the British Navy ship HMS Montrose "got between them and issued a verbal warning to withdraw."​​​​​​​
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Old 11th Jul 2019, 13:39
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This new whiz bang will change the rules of the game a bit....120 nm range.....find you three different ways....now try to target a Drone in International waters with a few of these looking for your emitter.

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/new-nav...from-120-miles
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I wonder if anyone is dusting off old copies of Operation Earnest Will and the various O-Plans that are associated with it.
32 years later and we see SSDD: Same Stuff, Different Decade.
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Lots of technology and force structure differences between then and now......bad conduct by the Revolutionary Guard.....not so much.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48958359

The UK has brought forward plans to send a second warship to the Gulf amid rising tensions with Iran.

HMS Duncan is currently in the Mediterranean and is expected to join HMS Montrose in the region next week. It comes after the UK government said Iranian boats tried to impede a British oil tanker in the Gulf on Wednesday. Meanwhile, Iran has reiterated calls for the UK to release an Iranian-owned oil tanker which was detained by Royal Marines in Gibraltar last week. An Iranian official, speaking to state news agency IRNA, warned the UK not to get involved in "this dangerous game".

The relationship between the UK and Iran has become increasingly strained in recent weeks. On Tuesday, the UK raised the threat to British shipping in Iranian waters in the Gulf to the highest level - where the risk of attack is critical. The following day, boats believed to belong to Iran's Islamic Revolution Guard Corps (IRGC) approached the British Heritage tanker and tried to bring it to a halt as it was moving out of the Gulf into the Strait of Hormuz. HMS Montrose, a British frigate shadowing the BP-owned tanker, was forced to move between the three boats and the ship, a Ministry of Defence spokesman said. Iran denied any involvement in the attempted seizure.

HMS Duncan, a type 45 Destroyer, will operate alongside HMS Montrose in the Gulf for a short period, before HMS Montrose goes back to Bahrain for routine maintenance. A government spokeswoman said: "As part of our long-standing presence in the Gulf, HMS Duncan is deploying to the region to ensure we maintain a continuous maritime security presence while HMS Montrose comes off task for pre-planned maintenance and crew change over. "This will ensure that the UK, alongside international partners, can continue to support freedom of navigation for vessels transiting through this vital shipping lane."
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A Type 45 deploying to the Gulf at the height of summer - what could possibly go wrong...
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A Type 45 deploying to the Gulf at the height of summer - what could possibly go wrong...
Sunburn????
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Iranian and US officials held a secret meeting in the northern Iraqi province of Arbil late on Tuesday, US media reported Wednesday.
A group composed of the grandson of the founder of the Islamic Republic, Hassan Khomeini, and two Iranian Revolutionary Guards officers and Iran's envoy to Iraq, Iraj Musjidi, met US officials in Arbil after growing. Iran's internal political struggle, between conservatives and reformists.

The IRNA network confirmed that its sources had provided information about the "launching of a campaign of political liquidation among the dissenters in Iran, the secular government led by Hassan Rowhani and the conservative conservatism of Qayad Ali Khamenei, which led to the arrest of 125 Iranian officials and the assassination of an unknown number, Nasseri, which called for a group of officials angry as a result of the current dispute, the holding of the meeting with the United States, and for unspecified reasons, most of the desire to stop the current weakness of the government in Tehran.
The network pointed to "a split in the ranks of the Basij, in addition to the government, where the political campaigns of liquidation, fearing a soft coup against the current regime." https://www.alghadpress.com/news/%D8...A-%D9%88%D8%A7
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In the meanwhile....the UK is dispatching more warships into the area....doubling or tripling its presence there.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/952237...third-warship/

I am sure the Bangers and Mash from the supply ship will go over swell on any US Warship it services!
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I was making a slight play on words that seems to not have registered. Thanks for the links, interesting reading.
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Iran seizes 'fuel-smuggling' tanker in Gulf

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Seems like nobody wants to own up to owning it and where it was going.

Seems like they can claim it was a legitimate stop until all data is provided.
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Iranian drone shot down

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US President Donald Trump said on Thursday that a US warship destroyed an Iranian drone in the Strait of Hormuz amid heightened tensions between the two countries.

Mr Trump said the USS Boxer took defensive action after the drone closed to within 1,000 yards of the warship and ignored multiple calls to stand down.

The President called it the latest "hostile" action by Iran and urged other countries to condemn what he says are Iran's attempts to disrupt the freedom of navigation and global commerce in the strategic waterway in the Persian Gulf region.

He said the drone threatened the safety of the American ship and its crew.

Iran recently shot down a US drone that it said was flying over Iran.

Trump called off a planned retaliatory airstrike at the last minute, citing the number of potential casualties.

This is a developing story.

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Old 18th Jul 2019, 21:09
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Originally Posted by racedo
Seems like nobody wants to own up to owning it and where it was going.

Seems like they can claim it was a legitimate stop until all data is provided.
I don’t know if this is a revelation to you or not, but you don’t have to hold a position, you can wait out till evidence is made public.

Just a thought.
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Iran makes 'substantial' nuclear offer in return for US lifting sanctions​​​​​​​

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...arif-sanctions
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I don’t know if this is a revelation to you or not, but you don’t have to hold a position, you can wait out till evidence is made public.
Just a thought.
You and I both know there is no chance that "evidence" will be made public unless it suits someone's personal agenda. Media will then spin it in whatever way they are told to.

I am happy, like you are, to express an opinion, it is my opinion solely, neither of us has to be right or wrong. Ultimately we are just expressing personal opinions and having read your opinions, I think I can safely say that they are yours solely, not influenced by anybody. It is why I read them.
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