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Old 22nd Oct 2022, 19:32
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I guess they'll put into practice the same methods they've used to keep F-4s / 5s / 14s going!
Local manufacture? Or buying stuff from the Israelis?
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Get 60, fly 12 and use the rest as Hagar queens for spares, rotating airframes for fatigue management. Meanwhile reverse engineer parts or buy them off the Chinese…
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Looks like the regime is firked, well and truly..

A landmark event where the riot police are joining the protesters, without those to control the crowds they are screwed unless they use the military and that is the beginning of the end.


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Old 26th Oct 2022, 13:11
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Looks like the regime is firked, well and truly.
Nutty, is this happening in just one city, or in numerous ones?
I have a suspicion that the IRGC is about to go into action, and it won't be pretty.
But, if the IRGC joins in with the protestors, that would be massively different.
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I don't know but have a look at these below, then the thread listed below that, that is some crowd, and the bottom link shows a lot more going on.
Got to be hundreds of thousands of them?



Main site, one clip fimed by a woman in her car she gets shot and killed!

https://twitter.com/hashtag/IranRevo...=hashtag_click
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Looking bad for the Government

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Breaking news live from Iran : Universities, bazars and malls in many cities and some of the oil refineries are on strike today. Freedom and rights for all iranians. Down with religious dictatorship. #IranRevolution
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There's lots of misinformation (and a fair amount of wishful thinking) on social media. Dark powers at work....

It would be 'helpful' if the country did rise up and boot out the Ayatollah, but I'd caution about getting too exited about the future, given what happened in the region a decade or so ago.
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Originally Posted by dead_pan
There's lots of misinformation (and a fair amount of wishful thinking) on social media. Dark powers at work....

It would be 'helpful' if the country did rise up and boot out the Ayatollah, but I'd caution about getting too exited about the future, given what happened in the region a decade or so ago.
Sadly, removing an extremist theocratic dictatorship with robust security forces tends to the impossible. but one can hope [however unlikely it would be]. A tragedy for a civilised people that will, sadly, grind on for ages to come.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
I don't know but have a look at these below, then the thread listed below that, that is some crowd, and the bottom link shows a lot more going on. Got to be hundreds of thousands of them?
Not gonna guess at numbers.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ff_E2ReX...jpg&name=small
Is this the beginning of an annual pilgrimage? Mahsa Amini (Zhini Amini?) was a martyr, or has become one - or so it would seem.
Main site, one clip fimed by a woman in her car she gets shot and killed!
What you describe didn't come up when I checked. Might have been taken down.
Recent report that security forces are opening fire

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Still there, see below, there is a translation that she says “they just shot a woman” then gets hit herself, it said she was in the car with her husband and her 7 year old son and she was killed.

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They never expected that response

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More that 100,000 attended the grave of the woman killed.

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Says it all really

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Old 29th Oct 2022, 03:14
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From This Article Originally
I find the tone to be slightly alarmist in nature, but it's not a bad summary.
Russia’s expanding use of Iranian drones in Ukraine poses an increasing threat for the U.S. and its European allies as Tehran attempts to project military power beyond the Middle East. In recent weeks, Ukrainian officials say, Russia has launched more than 300 Iranian drones that have targeted military units, power plants and civilian buildings in the capital, Kyiv. The Ukrainian military said it has shot down more than 70% of the drones, but Ukrainian officials are asking the U.S. and NATO allies for more help to counter the threat. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization has vowed to rush hundreds of drone jammers to Ukraine as part of a deepening effort to shore up Ukraine’s air defenses.
The wave of attacks has made Iran Moscow’s most important military ally in its faltering campaign in Ukraine and highlighted how Tehran has created one of the world’s most successful drone fleets despite years of Western sanctions.

“Drones have become the spearhead of Iranian power projection globally,” said Dr. James Rogers, an associate professor of war studies at the University of Southern Denmark. “Iran has one of the oldest and, arguably, one of the most efficient drone programs in the world.”

While the international community focused for years on trying to constrain Iran’s nuclear program, Tehran methodically built an army of drones that reached across the Middle East. Iran and its proxies have been accused of carrying out attacks on everything from U.S. forces in Syria and commercial ships in the Arabian Sea to Israeli cities and Saudi Arabia’s oil industry.
A drone flying over Kyiv during a Russian attack last week. Since 2015, Iran and its proxies have fired nearly 1,000 drones in attacks that have killed hundreds of people in Yemen, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Ukraine and the Gulf of Oman, according to the Saudi military and the Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project, which collects and analyzes information on protests and violence around the world. Besides Russia, Iran has also sold its drone technology to friendly governments, including Venezuela, Syria and Ethiopia, according to the U.S. Department of Defense.
Of course, you can argue that it's a case of Monkey See Monkey Do. Other nations, to include the US, Turkey, Israel, China, and others have used and developed drones and UAVs as part of their ability to use tech to add to their military capabilities.
And to project power beyond their borders.
The Iranians have done likewise.
Welcome to the brave new world, folks. The rest is in the spoiler for those interested.

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Old 29th Oct 2022, 09:07
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"it's a case of Monkey See Monkey Do."

same as N weapons - Iran is hammered for wanting to develop atomic weapons - by the USA, UK, France, Israel - and they have India, China, Russia & Pakistan in the neighbourhood

the only N armed nation they don't have to worry about is N Korea.
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Two Iranian IL-76 destroyed yesterday on the pan at Damascus airport.

Reportedly by Israeli missile attack, but not acknowledged….
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Old 1st Nov 2022, 19:26
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Saudi Arabia warns of an imminent attack by Iran. Reason for the possible attack is Iran's internal turmoil regarding the protests.
Honestly, an Iranian attack right now would be suicide. If they do it then it will start a cataclysmic reaction for Tehran.

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Old 1st Nov 2022, 20:33
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
"it's a case of Monkey See Monkey Do."
same as N weapons - Iran is hammered for wanting to develop atomic weapons
1. How about you not change the topic, and, specifically, don't lay that bull**** on me.
2. You will find that my position on Iran and nuke weapons, posted on PPRuNe forums even, is that I am not surprised they want them, and that given the neighborhood they live in, their desire for that deterrent is rational.
And that I don't care if they get them or not. If they do, all that the US has to do is add them to the target list.
And to be courteous, advise them via diplomatic memo that such esteemed status is a consequence of their own choices.
(Somewhere, a few years ago, I think I posted a proposed wording for such a comminique)
Hmm, I could have sworn I did something less tongue in cheek, but here's a sample)
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Granted, it was posted in JB about 9 years ago, and took a bit of digging to find ...

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The Iranian Government has reportedly raised the “Flag of Revenge” above the Shahcheragh Holy Shrine in the City of Shiraz, this is the exact same Flag raised on the days before the Iranian Missile Attack on the U.S Military’s Ayn al-Asad Airbase in Iraq.

U.S and Saudi Intelligence announced earlier today that Iranian Forces are preparing to conduct “Strikes” on Oil Refineries inside of Saudi Arabia most likely to distract the International/Domestic Community from the Protests across the Country in recent weeks.



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Seems to remove the element of surprise, doesn't it?
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