Whopee! Medals for all!
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
MB, I think more self-righteous pprunere by those denied the medal through the chosen date. If the Arctic Star can be back dated there is only one logical reason the LS can't be - cost.
Not just the cost of the medal but the mass of administration handling the requests. The Veterans' badge was relatively easy - check records, issue badge*, LS would need far more effort.
*I tried to have my VB 're done with a clutch pin. The jeweller said it was so cheap she could not do it as the badge would melt. Medals are rather more expensive.
Not just the cost of the medal but the mass of administration handling the requests. The Veterans' badge was relatively easy - check records, issue badge*, LS would need far more effort.
*I tried to have my VB 're done with a clutch pin. The jeweller said it was so cheap she could not do it as the badge would melt. Medals are rather more expensive.
Medals are rather more expensive.
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Well, it would appear that the LSGCM awards have begun at the top:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/t...conduct-medals
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/t...conduct-medals
Well, it would appear that the LSGCM awards have begun at the top:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/t...conduct-medals
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/t...conduct-medals
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NutLoose: ok, playing 'devil's advocate', is that what you think all the airmen & reservists are, the 'chav brigade who would sell their soul for a bit of tacky bling'? They all proudly (I assume) receive their LSGCMs without (I presume) thinking that it's only being given to 'massage their egos'. If not, & it's genuinely awarded to recognise their long service (& in their case good conduct) then why should the same not be done for regular officers?
Wearing a medal for which I would have qualified had I not taken my commission makes me a chav with a need to massage my own ego, apparently. Having already spent 25 years in the service, undertaken my fair share of op tours and served both in the ranks and as an officer I will wear my LS&GCM (and clasp!) with pride (does that count as ego massaging?) That admission clearly means that I haven't undertaken what NutLoose refers to as "real service", whatever that might be. I await enlightenment.
But no other industry I know of awards anything for 15 years service, personally I feel the only reason it has been brought out is as a cheap retention tool to try and assist in stemming the flow of experienced personnel out of the services, as the other methods do not appear to be working as much as they had hoped for, after all, what does it cost, a couple of pence to make?
Cheap at twice the price if it aids retention.
I tell a lie
Asda ensures long-service awards are well celebrated. As well as celebrating one year’s service, the supermarket rewards staff at five year intervals.
After completing one to 10 years’ service, employees receive a certificate and a pin badge recognising their loyalty. After 15 and 20 years’ service, they are given a monetary voucher to the value of £15 or £20.
This year, Asda introduced the recognition of length of service on name badges for employees who have worked there for one year or more.
Asda also holds an annual ‘Big Anniversary’ event for all staff who have completed 25, 30, 35, 40, 45 and 50 years’ service. These employees are invited to a a party and receive £300 and an extra week’s holiday in their anniversary year.
Kevin Trott, colleague engagement team leader-recognition and incentives at Asda, says: “Long service definitely engages colleagues in our business and makes it their business as well. It has a significant impact on our motivation mechanism.”
https://www.employeebenefits.co.uk/i...ll-have-value/
After completing one to 10 years’ service, employees receive a certificate and a pin badge recognising their loyalty. After 15 and 20 years’ service, they are given a monetary voucher to the value of £15 or £20.
This year, Asda introduced the recognition of length of service on name badges for employees who have worked there for one year or more.
Asda also holds an annual ‘Big Anniversary’ event for all staff who have completed 25, 30, 35, 40, 45 and 50 years’ service. These employees are invited to a a party and receive £300 and an extra week’s holiday in their anniversary year.
Kevin Trott, colleague engagement team leader-recognition and incentives at Asda, says: “Long service definitely engages colleagues in our business and makes it their business as well. It has a significant impact on our motivation mechanism.”
https://www.employeebenefits.co.uk/i...ll-have-value/
Popular long-service awards
- Holidays, for example to Las Vegas or Paris
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And don't McDonalds staff get stars on their name badges to reflect their service?
Can any ex-Navs confirm this.........?
Can any ex-Navs confirm this.........?
Well somebody has to fry the chips for the pilots' shoulders.
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At a tangent, I tracked The Gazette for Sir John McColl's recent K StJ.
Appointed Jersey's Lt Gov in September 2011.
Becomes Patron of St John Ambulance in Jersey [as one would expect]
Appointed Commander (Brother) April 2012
Appointed Knight August 2016
No disrespect, Sir, but you must be bloody good at tying bandages! Talk about a 'cascade' of awards for 'being there'.
Am I moody about not getting my LS&GC? Just a bit, to be honest, when I look at that.
Appointed Jersey's Lt Gov in September 2011.
Becomes Patron of St John Ambulance in Jersey [as one would expect]
Appointed Commander (Brother) April 2012
Appointed Knight August 2016
No disrespect, Sir, but you must be bloody good at tying bandages! Talk about a 'cascade' of awards for 'being there'.
Am I moody about not getting my LS&GC? Just a bit, to be honest, when I look at that.
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I got 4 weeks when leaving the Services, that just makes sense, if anyone was going to cause mayhem in their last days service, they have a period where they are still under military rule after they have gone where they could be disciplined.
I know someone who in a none military service was on his last day and was told that he wouldn't be allowed to leave until he cleared his desk of all outstanding paperwork, he did, he shredded the lot and walked out at 5 pm into retirement.
I know someone who in a none military service was on his last day and was told that he wouldn't be allowed to leave until he cleared his desk of all outstanding paperwork, he did, he shredded the lot and walked out at 5 pm into retirement.
charliegolf, I have tried to reply to your query about a lost medal, but your inbox is full. I might as well post it on here as it may well be of interest to others.
The address to write to when requesting a replacement for a lost/stolen medal is
MOD Medal office
Innsworth House
Imjin Barracks
Innsworth
Gloucester
GL3 1HW
This is the address for all medal queries, including initial claims. Some years ago I made a successful claim for a medal which my late father had never been issued with, but they will not replace claims for lost family medals once the recipient is deceased. It's worth pointing out that the service is not free, and the sums involved are not trivial, over £50 for a replacement GSM as I recall, although of course there is no charge for an initial issue.
The address to write to when requesting a replacement for a lost/stolen medal is
MOD Medal office
Innsworth House
Imjin Barracks
Innsworth
Gloucester
GL3 1HW
This is the address for all medal queries, including initial claims. Some years ago I made a successful claim for a medal which my late father had never been issued with, but they will not replace claims for lost family medals once the recipient is deceased. It's worth pointing out that the service is not free, and the sums involved are not trivial, over £50 for a replacement GSM as I recall, although of course there is no charge for an initial issue.
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GSM (Mali)
Just wondering if any aircrew qualify for the Op NEWCOMBE (Mali) GSM 2008. I know that absolutely NONE of the Sentinel aircrew qualify although many did op missions over Mali. They didn't qualify on days in Th as supporting Op HERRICK at the same time and dets were short and sweet.
I'm assuming the criteria was written by Navy types as I believe that you were ok if you were a sailor onboard a ship at 20N 10W for 45 days.
TT
I'm assuming the criteria was written by Navy types as I believe that you were ok if you were a sailor onboard a ship at 20N 10W for 45 days.
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My grateful civilian employer presented me with a clock after 10 years service!
But no other industry I know of awards anything for 15 years service,
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FTRS ?
The LS&GCM is now to be given to officers - maybe we're not expected to be well behaved anymore and so deserve a gong when we are.
15 years service for the medal and then clasps for every 10 years after that. Sorry Beagle, not available to those who left before 29 Jul 14.
Good news for Stn tailors everywhere!
15 years service for the medal and then clasps for every 10 years after that. Sorry Beagle, not available to those who left before 29 Jul 14.
Good news for Stn tailors everywhere!
Yet another scheme that FTRS who have rejoined after long and industrious careers won't benefit from pity that acculative service couldn't be used to qualify.
I had a little think about this LS medal!
Two other points strike me: It is, by definition, a recognition of previous service. Strange then, that it will only be awarded to a tiny fraction of those who have actually done that service.
And, I still can't understand the cut-off date? Surely this needs sorting-out and backdating 70 years, or so?
OAP
Two other points strike me: It is, by definition, a recognition of previous service. Strange then, that it will only be awarded to a tiny fraction of those who have actually done that service. And, I still can't understand the cut-off date? Surely this needs sorting-out and backdating 70 years, or so?OAP
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OAP - but at what cost? Defence budget spent on 'bling' can't be spent elsewhere & if the intention is to acknowledge those still in productive service & perhaps make them feel better about that service, even to the point of not leaving or signing on, then that might be considered money well spent. Dishing out medals to retired folk? Where's the 'return' for that?
A line was 'drawn in the sand' as to qualification, presumably to maximise the benefit to the MOD whilst minimising the expense & as with any line some people will be on the wrong side & unhappy, but you'll never please everybody - even giving medals to everybody alive whose ever served 15 years wouldn't do that judging by some of the opinions expressed here.
All 'Devil's advocacy' of course rather than personal opinion.
A line was 'drawn in the sand' as to qualification, presumably to maximise the benefit to the MOD whilst minimising the expense & as with any line some people will be on the wrong side & unhappy, but you'll never please everybody - even giving medals to everybody alive whose ever served 15 years wouldn't do that judging by some of the opinions expressed here.
All 'Devil's advocacy' of course rather than personal opinion.