Join the RAF, GO TO LOSSIEMOUTH
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Latest DIO contracts bulletin makes for interesting reading, not least the contract for Typhoon Squadron uplift: one additional squadron to Lossiemouth and one to Coningsby, and transfer of OCU to Lossiemouth.
So, Lossiemouth will then hold four operational Typhoon Squadrons, the Typhoon OCU AND the entire P-8 Poseidon force.
Somewhat cramped, overcrowded and rather busy?
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So, Lossiemouth will then hold four operational Typhoon Squadrons, the Typhoon OCU AND the entire P-8 Poseidon force.
Somewhat cramped, overcrowded and rather busy?
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Reactivate Kinloss as an RLG? 
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No need, it already is.
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Ahhh ... shows how out of touch I have become!
It was rumoured that the 'P-8 to Lossiemouth' decision was taken by the previous PM with little to no consideration of the basing options being worked up by MOD. An astute political move, for sure, with the independence fox having been well and truly shot (with barely a whimper from Sturgeon after the Brexit vote). But Mrs May has shown ruthlessness in dispensing with Dave's legacy, so who's to say the stuffing of the Typhoon Force into Lossie won't see the P-8 displaced elsewhere - or at least the options given proper consideration?
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She may well move the P-8 elsewhere. Or not - at the moment the security of Scotland is the security of the UK.
Ultimately TM could remove the Trident fleet and the Typhoon fleet and the P8 fleet and leave a massive financial/economic hole in Scotland and a massive boost to England/Wales by bringing it back to the South. Personally I think it's unlikely............. the strategic positioning to address the routes most likely used by our red 'friends' on their journeys 'out and about' is a key consideration
I was in Scotland this weekend and was surprised to find so many people who were still not keen on an Independent Scotland despite all the spin and hype from the SNP and the Brexit decision.................. apparently a recent poll in the Scotsman newspaper still showed a majority (slightly reduced) in favour of staying within the United Kingdom.
Perhaps there are people out there with a wider view after all..............
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Ultimately TM could remove the Trident fleet and the Typhoon fleet and the P8 fleet and leave a massive financial/economic hole in Scotland and a massive boost to England/Wales by bringing it back to the South. Personally I think it's unlikely............. the strategic positioning to address the routes most likely used by our red 'friends' on their journeys 'out and about' is a key consideration
I was in Scotland this weekend and was surprised to find so many people who were still not keen on an Independent Scotland despite all the spin and hype from the SNP and the Brexit decision.................. apparently a recent poll in the Scotsman newspaper still showed a majority (slightly reduced) in favour of staying within the United Kingdom.
Perhaps there are people out there with a wider view after all..............
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Given the opportunity to rejoin again at age 17.5, I'd do it in a heartbeat if I could go back up North. Perhaps times have changed, and my tenure at Kinloss cannot be repeated, but the Kin/Loss area, people and the work there for 7 years was truly fabulous.
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cannot see the problem - will be great to have lossie stuffed full of the RAF's finest aviators, all selected as the 'best of the best', all ready to carry out operational sorties 24/7/365, all capable of operating the very latest cutting-edge mil technology and able to switch between roles at a moment's notice and deliver a variety of precision weapons.........oh, and it will be good for them to bump into the Typhoon types now and then as well
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Scottish Independance
It has always puzzled me that our Scottish cousins strongly sought freedom but wanted to give it up to Europe, odd that.
Having lived in Scotland for five years it seems an emotional decision when a true patriot does what is best for his country not what suits his mood
Having lived in Scotland for five years it seems an emotional decision when a true patriot does what is best for his country not what suits his mood
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When I was there in eighties there were Buccaneers, Jaguars, Hunters, Shackletons and Sea Kings. I didn't count them but there were lots. I appreciate the "eggs in one basket" argument, but "cramped, overcrowded."...Really??
"Independence within Europe" ..only the SNP could campaign under a banner with such a glaring contradiction
"Independence within Europe" ..only the SNP could campaign under a banner with such a glaring contradiction
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At least the Navy used to have a weekend shuttle 'tilly' from Jockistan to civilisation in a Sea Heron....
No doubt easyJet flights from Inverness will prove popular.
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One thing Lossie does have is space and this will be the reason it was kept versus Leuchars, despite the latter having famously been renovated to support another 40yrs of fighter ops!
Re-opening Kinloss (for 9 a/c) is a pipe dream in my opinion, but agree that basing P-8 at Waddington makes some sense. What would maybe have more sense would have been to establish a 3rd Typhoon MOB at somewhere roughly inbetween the two current bases. Leeming? Leuchars? But I'd imagine budget constraints put paid to ideas such as those.
Re-opening Kinloss (for 9 a/c) is a pipe dream in my opinion, but agree that basing P-8 at Waddington makes some sense. What would maybe have more sense would have been to establish a 3rd Typhoon MOB at somewhere roughly inbetween the two current bases. Leeming? Leuchars? But I'd imagine budget constraints put paid to ideas such as those.
One answer to the lack of bases could be too share old airfields that are now in civil use. Teesside, Doncaster and Newquay to name a few. It may go against the grain to work with civilians but many other countries manage to make it work.
Apart from reducing the casts of running the field, other savings could be using the airline freight system to move spares. I'm sure more could be found.
Apart from reducing the casts of running the field, other savings could be using the airline freight system to move spares. I'm sure more could be found.
It has always puzzled me that our Scottish cousins strongly sought freedom but wanted to give it up to Europe, odd that.
Having lived in Scotland for five years it seems an emotional decision when a true patriot does what is best for his country not what suits his mood
Having lived in Scotland for five years it seems an emotional decision when a true patriot does what is best for his country not what suits his mood
Especially ones with White Vans!
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