Dannatt "quite content to say sorry" over Lariam
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Dannatt "quite content to say sorry" over Lariam
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37183873
Yet another breathtakingly arrogant pronouncement from the the "Flying Lord". Perhaps his most telling comment was that this debacle was caused by a lack of funds for the MoD. In other words, he thought that it was reasonable to expect those under his command to take cheap dodgy anti-malaria drugs so that he could he do his political masters' bidding.
Yet another breathtakingly arrogant pronouncement from the the "Flying Lord". Perhaps his most telling comment was that this debacle was caused by a lack of funds for the MoD. In other words, he thought that it was reasonable to expect those under his command to take cheap dodgy anti-malaria drugs so that he could he do his political masters' bidding.
We used to take paludrine which I think was pretty universal before lariam and the later generation of anti-malarial drugs came along.
I notice that one of the side effects of paludrine is "reversible hair loss". In my case, unfortunately, the hair loss is irreversible. Do you think I have a case for suing the MOD?
I notice that one of the side effects of paludrine is "reversible hair loss". In my case, unfortunately, the hair loss is irreversible. Do you think I have a case for suing the MOD?
Yet another breathtakingly arrogant pronouncement from the the "Flying Lord".
What has arrogance to do with it? The man has apologised for being the Senior man when the medics were prescribing a well known and well used drug that is in use the world over. What the **** is arrogant about that?
The arrogance, kintyred, is in the baseless accusation against the man and the "cheap dodgy" drug that is/was in global use at the time. Still, if you know better...
Anti senior officer chip needs removing from shoulder, methinks.
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We used to take paludrine which I think was pretty universal before lariam and the later generation of anti-malarial drugs came along.
I notice that one of the side effects of paludrine is "reversible hair loss". In my case, unfortunately, the hair loss is irreversible. Do you think I have a case for suing the MOD?
I notice that one of the side effects of paludrine is "reversible hair loss". In my case, unfortunately, the hair loss is irreversible. Do you think I have a case for suing the MOD?
In a bowl beside the salt tablets by the wáter cooler
As for reversible hair loss, I too look a bit like Mr. Sheen.
I find the choice of words strange. How can anybody be 'content' to say sorry? What does that mean exactly?
And to outright refuse it himself, knowing the possible effects, when it was being prescribed to troops under his command, does not sit very easily.
And to outright refuse it himself, knowing the possible effects, when it was being prescribed to troops under his command, does not sit very easily.
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Read the man's words......he is 'quite content' to say sorry....not the contrition of one under whose watch a drug over which there was already a cloud (no longer prescribed in the US) was given to his men. He admitted that he himself didn't take it because of the side effects his son had suffered. If he had had any conscience he would at least have asked his chain of command to dig a little deeper rather than keeping quiet. Anti senior officer? Only when they don't take the responsibility for which they are paid.
Read the man's words......he is 'quite content' to say sorry....not the contrition of one under whose watch a drug over which there was already a cloud (no longer prescribed in the US) was given to his men. He admitted that he himself didn't take it because of the side effects his son had suffered. If he had had any conscience he would at least have asked his chain of command to dig a little deeper rather than keeping quiet. Anti senior officer? Only when they don't take the responsibility for which they are paid.
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Hmmm, a Senior Officer asking those in their command to do something they're not prepared to.
It doesn't sit comfortably with me. I'd like to think it wouldn't happen in the military I served nor be so readily accepted as in the UK.
But times are different now....
It doesn't sit comfortably with me. I'd like to think it wouldn't happen in the military I served nor be so readily accepted as in the UK.
But times are different now....
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To quote you, 'read the man's words'. He does NOT say, 'the debacle was caused by lack of funds for the MOD'. He says that funding is an issue about financial settlements, not that it was regarding the inital prescription. My understanding from the medics is that Larium's side effects was well known at the time, but that it offered a level of immediate malarial resistance that other drugs did not. Thus they were faced with a choice: accept that some individuals would be affected by side effects, or potentially have individuals be vulnerable to catching malaria. It was a decision that was made from a clinical perspective, and not from a financial one.
Now, my information may prove to be wrong. The difference is, I will not start throwing mud at people trying their best to do their jobs without hard evidence that they were negligent. Can you say the same?
To quote you, 'read the man's words'. He does NOT say, 'the debacle was caused by lack of funds for the MOD'. He says that funding is an issue about financial settlements, not that it was regarding the inital prescription. My understanding from the medics is that Larium's side effects was well known at the time, but that it offered a level of immediate malarial resistance that other drugs did not. Thus they were faced with a choice: accept that some individuals would be affected by side effects, or potentially have individuals be vulnerable to catching malaria. It was a decision that was made from a clinical perspective, and not from a financial one.
Now, my information may prove to be wrong. The difference is, I will not start throwing mud at people trying their best to do their jobs without hard evidence that they were negligent. Can you say the same?
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notice that one of the side effects of paludrine is "reversible hair loss". In my case, unfortunately, the hair loss is irreversible. Do you think I have a case for suing the MOD?
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lariam was quite commonly prescribed in the Uk at the time - I had a serious falling out with the nurse at my local docs when I said I wanted something else...
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Deployments in the Mid East I had the daily tablets and the once a week one. Most of us had to stop taking the weekly one because the effect was horrible. My regret is that I didn't stop taking them sooner. No, I can't identify the drugs, but paludrine was one of them.
Too late now.
Too late now.