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Old 8th Feb 2016, 11:56
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Islamic State: Charles de Gaulle carrier triples French firepower

Interesting article/video on the Beeb website. Have successfully resisted the temptation to state the obvious... (from a UK perspective).
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Intersting vid - apart from a couple of minor points, it was a good report too. Nice hardware. I wonder when Britain might be able to field something like that: AWACS, air-to-air, strike, helos. Vive la France!
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I found the France's one and only aircraft carrier, a bit snide:

its one more than we have, or are likely to have!

Thank God for the Silent Service. If only they could fly off a decent little multi-role modernised Folland Gnat [and recover it] what a game-changer that would be.
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Can't see the video through the local firewalls, but I've said it before - and I'll say it again, the French seem to get a lot of bangfor their euro.

In addition to their CV borne capabilities, elsewhere they also already get:
CSAR
BMD/SAM
MRA
something approaching what FRES should have given us
arguably, a wider range of RW and FW AT
a national capability to launch comms and surveillance satellites

and I'm sure there are other capabilities too.

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Plus Force de dissuasion, BATCO, by air and sea.
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
I found the France's one and only aircraft carrier, a bit snide:

its one more than we have, or are likely to have!

Thank God for the Silent Service. If only they could fly off a decent little multi-role modernised Folland Gnat [and recover it] what a game-changer that would be.
Would cease to be very silent though Lang!

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Merci, oui, ils ont conservé une alternative à la SNLE (SSBN) comme vous l'avez remarqué.

Cordialement
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Une alternative ainsi que le M45.
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Ahh... all those Billions of Pounds tied up in the state of the art equipment to take on a bunch of so called Amateurs armed with £260 AK47's and £500 RPG's who have managed to take over significant portions of at least two countries who were armed with some of the best the West ( and East ) could provide.

It reminds me of the image of Millions of Pounds worth of British armoured vehicles reduced to lining up behind some chap walking down the road with a couple of hundreds Pounds worth of Metal detector looking for a £50 IED

Something wrong there.


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Certainly food for thought in your comments. But the millions of pounds worth of kit to find a 50 quid IED is not the end of the story. The point is that it costs that much to protect our people while finding/neutralising the IED IN ORDER FOR the population to be protected: if there were a cheaper way to deal with said IED, I'm sure we'd take it.

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What are the French tax levels?
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Tax Levels in France

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_France
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In practice, I would be better off paying tax on my RAF pension in France than in the UK. But HMG don't want me to do that.
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I've just finished reading "Wings on my Sleeve", and there is quite a bit about the proposed CVA-01, to replace Eagle and Ark Royal by the mid-sixties. As with so many things military, it just never happened.
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CM - moi aussi
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Oh no...don't mention CVA-01 or the usual tribe will invade this thread with the usual complaints of "moving Australia" by the beastly crabs.....conveniently forgetting that dreadful RN Staffwork & hubris were larger factors....

Well done France; one comment though - they do have a lot of RW but they lack anything that can do heavy lift.....for now.
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I have to say; I would have liked our aircraft carriers to have been nuclear powered, angled deck, cat & trap type proper carriers too!

How come we always end up with second best?
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I have to say; I would have liked our aircraft carriers to have been nuclear powered, angled deck, cat & trap type proper carriers too!

How come we always end up with second best?
By insisting BAe Systems buils it?

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French Income Tax

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HMRC told me I have no option as my RAF and MOD Pensions must be taxed in UK. As a retread singlie my French Income Tax plus Social Taxes would be higher!
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By insisting BAe Systems buils it?
Sadly, but typical crap from those who don't know! Bae Systems ( or whatever the tag is today) build what they are asked to do. The Military get what they ask for......even if it's a civil servant who "places " the order.

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