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F35 Seating Position - how does it effect the Driver?

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Old 10th Jan 2016, 09:25
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F35 Seating Position - how does it effect the Driver?

Just seen this head on shot of the F35 (https://image-store.slidesharecdn.com/fb1646d5-3633-4b31-95dc-31fdf1d52fdb-original.jpeg).

It looks like the seating position is slightly starboard of centreline. Clearly there's a design reason for that but what intrigues me is the effect on the body - especially when maneouvering. Or is it negligible?

Thoughts anyone?
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Aren't the pilots wearing those helmets that let you see "through" the plane so I guess it doesn't matter where you sit. In the future you'd probably be sitting in an office in downtown Washington.

Thanks to Lockheed Martin I got to sample the feel of the magic carpet ride by wearing one those helmets in a SIM. Sure is a game changer.
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Originally Posted by Trash 'n' Navs
It looks like the seating position is slightly starboard of centreline
It's just how the pilot's noggin is positioned in the photo...

Look at this image of the cockpit, you can clearly see the seating position is central.


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It doesn't matter where the pilot sits because z-axis 5thGenTM networked superfusion ultrastealth information dominance paradigms.
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T'n'N,

Perhaps I can help.

The pilot's seat position on the F-35 is plumb on the centreline. What you're seeing is an effect of the camera position, just as Rhino has pointed out.

What the picture does show is just how far along the F-35 has taken combat aircraft cockpit design - although there are bound to be those who will criticise it, and perhaps they are right. The pilots I've spoken with who have flown the jet for real and in sims reckon it's a huge step forward.

Hope this helps

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T'other guys are not far behind...



... and with the Elbit hardware you keep the HUD for high-fidelity and boresight accuracy.
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Thanks Rhino & Engines. Appreciate the explanation.
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What is 'that' cockpit

What's the cockpit you posted please Low Observable?


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It's art of the AEL Sistemas (Elbit subsidiary) concept for JAS 39E Gripen, but the same glass is going in the F-15SA, no doubt with all nameplates saying AEL and written in Portuguese...
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Thank you LO


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Seeing the gripen cockpit is Brazilian concept artwork, I thought they would label it 6th gen and get rid of the HUD and rear vision mirrors. The artwork could also be enhanced by a couple of missile tracks and F-35's exploding in the distance. Perhaps that's in one of the other concept artworks.

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Deviating slightly, but still on the subject of seating position, I have seen mention on t'internet -can't remember where- that the F-16's seat angle, while assisting admirably with sustaining high g-force, has caused some pilots with many hours on the Viper to suffer neck/back problems from having to tilt their head further forward than if they were flying jets with more upright seats.

Has anyone else come across this, or is it just something and nothing? Sounds feasible, but then again...
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Originally Posted by Martin the Martian
Has anyone else come across this, or is it just something and nothing? Sounds feasible, but then again...
Nope, you remember correctly - here you go
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LowObservable:

It doesn't matter where the pilot sits because z-axis 5thGenTM networked superfusion ultrastealth information dominance paradigms.
Have a like.

As to your other post about the other guys - Google Maps now has a right mouse click pop-up with 'Add Waypoint, IP, Target, etc etc specially designed for those 5th Gen aircraft
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T'other guys are not far behind...



... and with the Elbit hardware you keep the HUD for high-fidelity and boresight accuracy.
Interesting. The Swedes went with a huge flat panel ala F-35, but kept the bezel switches ala legacy MFDs. No touchscreen? And it looks like they have a legacy FMS in the left console. I do like the central control stick vs the right hand only sidestick.
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Thanks WeeJeem. Some interesting statistics.
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Ken, one could paraphrase and say "T'other guys are not even close" and need to get their heads around what is "z-axis 5thGenTM networked superfusion ultrastealth information dominance paradigms."

It's sad when even in a future concept, they are just a step up from steam gauges.
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huge flat panel
Will undoubtedly be 4k capable with Dolby Atmos. Have to have something to help wile away the hours waiting for RoE's to be met.

Also, must be base model F-35.....no cup holders.
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Cup holders?

It'd be hard to improve upon the Swedish design:


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