UK MFTS Fixed Wing Flying Training : The Future
Surprised that this hasn't been mentioned here before?
On Tuesday the Managing Director of Ascent announced that they were to "increase the output and capacity of MFTS by procuring more aircraft, adding to the infrastructure as well as increasing the numbers of staff and simulators."
Whilst this has been expected ever since the SDSR 2015 increased the need, and the original MFTS output and aircraft/instructors complement was based on the 2010 SDSR, am intrigued by the "adding to the infrastructure" statement.
Just more buildings or hope for Linton on Ouse and or Scampton?
On Tuesday the Managing Director of Ascent announced that they were to "increase the output and capacity of MFTS by procuring more aircraft, adding to the infrastructure as well as increasing the numbers of staff and simulators."
Whilst this has been expected ever since the SDSR 2015 increased the need, and the original MFTS output and aircraft/instructors complement was based on the 2010 SDSR, am intrigued by the "adding to the infrastructure" statement.
Just more buildings or hope for Linton on Ouse and or Scampton?
Timelord,
True, though I doubt that we will see a Corbyn Gov't anytime soon.
I do wonder what he means by infrastructure though.
PM's checked, reply sent.
True, though I doubt that we will see a Corbyn Gov't anytime soon.
I do wonder what he means by infrastructure though.
PM's checked, reply sent.
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i was recently pretty shocked to discover that the RAF farms out some of its training to L3/CTC. Incredible. Taught by a mixture of retired old airliner types or instructor hour builders.
UAV869, it's had to do that because MFTS ME advanced training on the Phenom has yet to be delivered. Wrong aircraft in the first place as it was never designed for the training role - not helped by the fact that 2 of them were involved in a mid-air collision whilst showboating during practice for the 100th anniversary flypast.
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true, but is the training given by a career civilian instructor, (that has never stepped foot into a herc or the like) going to be able to teach a military student? Not all the training you get is purely down to what is put on the white board, its hearing the stories, being taught the relevant airmanship, immersing oneself into the RAF way of flying.
yes straight and level is straight and level, but there is a whole lot more these guys will be missing out from.
on the flip side, perhaps the civilian way is more current in its thinking? probably more embracing of CRM concepts, I dont know, pure speculation on my side. But I was surprised and saddened by it non the less.
yes straight and level is straight and level, but there is a whole lot more these guys will be missing out from.
on the flip side, perhaps the civilian way is more current in its thinking? probably more embracing of CRM concepts, I dont know, pure speculation on my side. But I was surprised and saddened by it non the less.
true, but is the training given by a career civilian instructor, (that has never stepped foot into a herc or the like) going to be able to teach a military student? Not all the training you get is purely down to what is put on the white board, its hearing the stories, being taught the relevant airmanship, immersing oneself into the RAF way of flying.
yes straight and level is straight and level, but there is a whole lot more these guys will be missing out from.
on the flip side, perhaps the civilian way is more current in its thinking? probably more embracing of CRM concepts, I dont know, pure speculation on my side. But I was surprised and saddened by it non the less.
yes straight and level is straight and level, but there is a whole lot more these guys will be missing out from.
on the flip side, perhaps the civilian way is more current in its thinking? probably more embracing of CRM concepts, I dont know, pure speculation on my side. But I was surprised and saddened by it non the less.
So, the latest wonderful rumour I've heard suggests that pilots are now being sent to become Air Traffic Controllers during their 3 year hold between IOTC Cranwell and Elementary Flying Training. Can there really be any truth to this?
Gentleman Aviator
So, the latest wonderful rumour I've heard suggests that pilots are now being sent to become Air Traffic Controllers during their 3 year hold between IOTC Cranwell and Elementary Flying Training.
Or more worrying, perhaps things rotary in other coloured uniforms....
But their time at Shawbury will make them indoctrinated into things rotary!!
Or more worrying, perhaps things rotary in other coloured uniforms....
Or more worrying, perhaps things rotary in other coloured uniforms....
Good grief though - 3 years between IOT and EFT? Is that the best that MFTS can manage these days?
Yes, there are a few that have done a cut-down Holding Aircrew Airfield Air-traffic Course (or something like that). It is a cut-down course that qualifies them to do Tower/Ground in the VCR to help out with ATC capacity. They stay in the Flying Branch and are released as soon as their EFT is ready to take them for groundschool. It’s a good place to hold to get experience of Air Traffic - something that will benefit them for the flying careers for years to come.
So not quite as bad as it sounds
Up to 2 years hold but that started coming back recently. The lad in our office came forward 4 months.
Yes, there are a few that have done a cut-down Holding Aircrew Airfield Air-traffic Course (or something like that). It is a cut-down course that qualifies them to do Tower/Ground in the VCR to help out with ATC capacity. They stay in the Flying Branch and are released as soon as their EFT is ready to take them for groundschool. It’s a good place to hold to get experience of Air Traffic - something that will benefit them for the flying careers for years to come.
So not quite as bad as it sounds
You just hope any (potential) opposition is just as inept as we are!
57mm,
I guess the answer to your question lies in my post above, where the MD of Ascent announced the intent to procure additional aircraft, simulators, instructors and infrastructure to increase the output of MFTS...
I guess the answer to your question lies in my post above, where the MD of Ascent announced the intent to procure additional aircraft, simulators, instructors and infrastructure to increase the output of MFTS...
If you believe that, I've got an A400M engine I can sell you! (along with a cut-price x-channel ferry).
Training Risky,
As it was a direct public announcement from the MD, if it is untrue the Stock Exchange may be a little bit interested cos that be against the law...
As it was a direct public announcement from the MD, if it is untrue the Stock Exchange may be a little bit interested cos that be against the law...
It shows the 2018 Pilot gain as 70, and the Total Outflow at 7.4% with a Workforce Requirement of 2040 (strength is 1600 - 440 short). So that is 70 in and 150 out - a loss of 80 when you are in deficit of 440!!! The WSO/WSOp won’t be much better looking at the outflow rates, the training rates and the current demographic. All shown in the above link.
