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Answer yes or no to the RAF bombing Syria this coming week.

Old 2nd Dec 2015, 21:54
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More idiocy, as is becoming so popular these days, comes to PPRuNe.

For the benefit of the hard of thinking, does anyone on here think that the views of posters on the "Military Aviation" PPRuNe thread is actually a good mirror on the views of the population of the UK?
Oh Goodness! Do you remember them? The people of our Country (the UK) that you claim to be acting for.....

No, of course not.

Vote. (amongst your stupid selves)

Bomb. (while simultaneously getting upset when non-aircraft bombs go off, inconviently).

The population of the UK-whose views ARE MOST DEFINATELY NOT REFLECTED by postings on this thread do not want to get involved.

Get a Fukcing grip.

But hey, crack on!


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Old 2nd Dec 2015, 22:02
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You are clearly an expert in UK public opinion, AtomKraft, so you must be right. Or did you just write that because it's how you would like it to be?
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well said, Courtney!
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Old 2nd Dec 2015, 22:19
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As we used to say in my old unit, 'Dont be sorry, be correct'.

I'm ex-mil, and no fan of these idiots, but fighting them only encourages them.

If you like the idea of endless war, wade in......

Wade right in until we all get sucked down. Will you be happy then, that we done our duty?

But what do I know?

As an old Pongo, I know SHIT, when I see it.
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Interesting vote on TV tonight among 16 people in Liverpool who had declared themselves undecided before the debate. At the end of their discussions they voted and guess what - 8 for and 8 against the government motion. Hardly what you claim to be the situation among the population Atomkraft

Dont be confused by TV pictures of large anti war demos. We dont do pro war demos in this country (smacks too much of Nurnberg), most people who are in favour of some sort of action tend to stay quietly at home.

Now the decision has been made I am just hoping that our aircrews stay safe - I wish them well.
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Old 2nd Dec 2015, 22:33
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I dont give a flying F for anyone elses opinion.
In MY opinion, we should keep right out of the ME. We've dabbled a-plenty over the years, and with both bad and worse than bad intentions.

NOTHING we can do in the short term-and BOY- thats all we're in it for!, can change it for the better in the long term.

But Hey!
Bomb.

Bomb

Bomb

Bomb

Bomb

Bomb.

Oh Goodness.

I feel better, knowing that we're going to bomb someone- and glad its not me, or my kids.
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Old 2nd Dec 2015, 22:39
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Tanker.
If youve allowed your opinion to be swayed by the opinions of 'the undecided' in Liverpool, the next time you want advice try pulling the petals off a flower and saying 'he loves me, he loves me not' until you get your answer...
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BBC news just reported the MOD reporting two Tornados have taken off from Cyprus on a mission..... Call me old fashioned but WTF are the MOD announcing missions while they are taking place and are in theater.
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You see what we do with air power like GR4, Reaper and to some extent Typhoon is so much more than just 'bomb'. Here is a quote from Lt Gen Dave Deptula from a presentation I attended a few years ago with my bold added:

Here’s a recent text message dialogue between two
insurgents in Afghanistan that was recently declassified.
I quote. “Tanks and armor are not a big deal. The planes
are the killers. I can handle everything but the jet
fighters
.”
That wasn’t written by the Air Force
Association or the Air Force Public Affairs Office, it was
written by two Taliban insurgent commanders. That, ladies
and gentlemen, is what we’re all about. Exploiting
America’s asymmetric advantage, our air, space and cyber
power.
The full transcript is available on the Air Force Association website. He is right and so many on here are wrong. The systematic targetting of the insurgents training camps, logistics (including their revenue earning oil convoys), their middle and senior leadership plus limiting their ability to move freely really will degrade the capability of this lot. This is not a LINEBACKER type carpet bombing of Syria - it is high-grade intelligence driven time-sensitive targetting against key assets. That works and it is likely that if we give them the run-around and degrade the insurgents ability to train for, fund and direct their plans then the chances of an attack in Europe reduces and the ability to take back the land they have claimed will be easier. Why the yoghurt-knitting Guardianista seem to think that there will be so many civilian casualties is beyond me - they obviously still think we're using SNEB rocket packs, cluster weapons and iron bombs - idiots!

Anyway, vote is won very convincingly and I suspect that the vote in Oldham will lead more to the woes of the yoghurt-knitters and lentil-eating loons.

LJ

PS. I also believe there is a special gate for the 'no' voters in the Tower of London and it begins with a 'T'...
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Oh Golly
Me and the other sheeples in PC UK are so grateful to the brave boys and girls in those two Tornadoes for droppin those bombs.

I hope they kill more people than they antagonise.

But lets not complain too much when their bombs (not dropped from a GR4) go pop.
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Nutty

Probably night flying currency rides.

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Are you back on Planet Claire again - didn't anybody tell you that those things are bad for you...?

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Your anger is showing, AtomKraft. Anger, pure anger.

Here's a little thought that may make you feel a bit better.

RAF involvement in Syria will do little to increase the terrorist threat anywhere because they are already involved in bombing Daesh in Iraq. The small percentage of missions where the RAF crews have actually dropped on targets in Iraq is a good indicator of how carefully selective they are being to hit confirmed targets and avoid civilian casualties - that does not include recce missions.

The fact that you don't
Originally Posted by AtomKraft
give a flying F
for anyone elses [sic] opinion probably indicates that you haven't listened too much.

If you listened more you might understand that standing by now and doing nothing would not stop ISIS attacks in Western cities as they still have their grand plan to achieve - perhaps you would prefer that without giving a
Originally Posted by AtomKraft
flying F
If you listened more you might understand that standing by and doing nothing would mean thousands more people murdered and brutalised and further expansion of these medieval murderers - perhaps you would prefer that without giving a
Originally Posted by AtomKraft
flying F
I'm sure we're all pleased it's not you or your kids.
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Nutty, been happening for many years.

The crews taking part in the Falklands bombing complained about the same thing.

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Old 2nd Dec 2015, 23:15
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Well, at least we can agree on that last sentence.......

We should never have got involved in the ME, and although we did our best in the Great Game- we lost.

Its about time we admitted it, and FO'd.

Our whole gambit there was sluttish. We played, we lost, and we made a giant mess-viz Israel.

OK, according to you, lets have another go. Like our THREE attempts in Afghanistan? EVERY SINGLE ONE OF WHICH, got our arses handed to us?

****it.

Bomb away

No good will come of it.

Mark my words.
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Dropping bombs on the Middle East has been working wonders since 1991, suppose a few more years of kids getting blown to bits won't do much more harm.......
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You ******* 'bombs away' pilots seem to have trouble distinguishing between tactics and strategy.

Was ever thus.
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Aircraft with HE weapons are tactical.

The big question is: are IS tactical, or strategic.
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Well the vote has been cast and the decision made.

Despite my previously stated misgivings, now is the time to fully support the boys and girls who, like it or not, are doing our bidding and their duty.
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First strikes carried out early this morning over Syria.
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