Hullavington airfield
Couldn't get your link to work, 140WP. I found this one from the G&H dated two days ago, ie the 14th March. Is it the same one?
Dyson submits plans for hangar conversions at Hullavington airfield (From The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald)
Dyson submits plans for hangar conversions at Hullavington airfield (From The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald)
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Chugalug2 - yes it is, sorry about that. The gallery pictures are a bit misleading because they show the grass covered hangars which were sold several years ago, and are now leased to M4 Karting, which are on the right as you turn off the A429 onto the road that leads to Wellington Place and Hullavington village
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From 1955 to 57 Hullavington was home to the world's first ab initio jet training courses on the JP1 and 2. Worth a small blue plaque at a hitec innovation centre?
140 WP I don't think that the gallery is that misleading as there were some 15 hangars at Hullavington of which at least 8 were grass covered. Only two were outside the airfield boundary and it was these that were leased to M4 Karting.
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Yes, you are correct. The Karting hangars are on A site, which is outside the airfield boundary but still included in the Conservation Area. The other six grass covered hangars are on B, C and E sites, although one of the ones at E site has had the grass covering removed.
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Posted by another in March 2016 and now reality:
So, here is my theory on the Dyson rumour...
Seeing as Dyson has bought out the high-tech battery company Satki3 with a £10M investment last year: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...y-company.html
And that he has announced an interest in electric cars: Dyson might be building electric car, joining Apple and Google in looking to make vehicles of the future | News | Lifestyle | The Independent
As I quoted before, James Gray MP stated:
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“There’s a business interested in the site and it would be an environmentally sensitive one that local people would welcome.”
Mr Gray has refused to give any further details on which business he believes is interested. Local speculation is that washing machine and vacuum manufacturer Dyson, which moved to Malmesbury from Chippenham some years ago but has now outgrown its factory there, would be keen to stay in the area and expand.
James Gray MP plays down fears over houses in Hullavington (From This Is Wiltshire)
Now seeing as the Chancellor has been crowing about autonomous electric vehicles recently in the press: George Osborne to open UK roads to driverless cars by 2020 | News | Lifestyle | The Independent
And also his budget last year boosted this: Budget 2015: Research into driverless cars boosted - FT.com
Then here is my theory. Dyson will be the lead in building autonomous electric cars in the UK, using his new battery technology, and building them at Hullavington. If I'm right I'll claim my £5 and if I'm wrong I'll keep wearing my tin foil hat...
...if correct then its not great news for the 'Northern Powerhouse', though. Maybe they should rename it the 'Western Powerhouse' with the recent investment at St Athan for the Aston Martin DB-X factory!! Maybe, HS2 should be routed westwards instead!
LJ
Seeing as Dyson has bought out the high-tech battery company Satki3 with a £10M investment last year: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...y-company.html
And that he has announced an interest in electric cars: Dyson might be building electric car, joining Apple and Google in looking to make vehicles of the future | News | Lifestyle | The Independent
As I quoted before, James Gray MP stated:
Quote:
“There’s a business interested in the site and it would be an environmentally sensitive one that local people would welcome.”
Mr Gray has refused to give any further details on which business he believes is interested. Local speculation is that washing machine and vacuum manufacturer Dyson, which moved to Malmesbury from Chippenham some years ago but has now outgrown its factory there, would be keen to stay in the area and expand.
James Gray MP plays down fears over houses in Hullavington (From This Is Wiltshire)
Now seeing as the Chancellor has been crowing about autonomous electric vehicles recently in the press: George Osborne to open UK roads to driverless cars by 2020 | News | Lifestyle | The Independent
And also his budget last year boosted this: Budget 2015: Research into driverless cars boosted - FT.com
Then here is my theory. Dyson will be the lead in building autonomous electric cars in the UK, using his new battery technology, and building them at Hullavington. If I'm right I'll claim my £5 and if I'm wrong I'll keep wearing my tin foil hat...
...if correct then its not great news for the 'Northern Powerhouse', though. Maybe they should rename it the 'Western Powerhouse' with the recent investment at St Athan for the Aston Martin DB-X factory!! Maybe, HS2 should be routed westwards instead!
LJ
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So - it will be electric cars!
Dyson to make electric cars from 2020 By Ian Pollock Business reporter, BBC News 26 September 2017
Sir James Dyson accused the mainstream car industry of polluting the world with diesel emissions
Dyson, the engineering company best known for its vacuum cleaners and fans, plans to spend £2bn developing a "radical" electric car.
The battery-powered vehicle is due to be launched in 2020.
Dyson says 400 staff have been working on the secret project for the past two years at its headquarters in Malmesbury, Wiltshire.
However, the car does not yet exist, with no prototype built, and a factory site is yet to be chosen.
Sir James declined to give further details of the project. "Competition for new technology in the automotive industry is fierce and we must do everything we can to keep the specifics of our vehicle confidential," he told staff in an email.
Important points that are undecided or secret include the firm's expected annual production total, the cost of the car, or its range or top speed.
Sir James said about £1bn would be spent on developing the car, with another £1bn on making the battery.
Analysis: Richard Westcott, BBC transport correspondent
It was a slightly unusual launch, but then, Sir James Dyson likes to be different.
In a small room above his swanky London shop he told us about his vision for a clean car.
First up, we were treated to an old clip of Blue Peter, from the 90s, where Anthea Turner interviewed him about his new device to clean soot from the exhaust of diesel vehicles... it was the cyclone from his vacuum cleaner, put to a different use.
"That is how long I have wanted to do this," he told us.
In fact he first hatched the idea in the late 1980s.
Since then, he has developed motors and batteries and now he is able to bring all that expertise together in a new, electric car.
He promised that it will be radical and different, because, as he put it, what is the point of making it like any other car?
And he promised that it will not be cheap.
I did ask how much it would be to put down a deposit... he told me he would have to think about it.
Further development work will take place at a former RAF base at Hullavington in Wiltshire, where staff will move to in February.
Sir James also said that his firm's car would look "radical and different", but will not be aimed at the mass market.
The motor is designed and ready to go, he said, but the firm is still designing the car.
Dyson's decision means it is joining the rush within the global car industry to develop and make electric cars.
Dyson hopes to challenge other electric car manufacturers such as Tesla
Some manufacturers such as Nissan, Tesla, Renault, BMW and Hyundai already manufacture them.
Others such as VW, Volvo, Mercedes, Honda and Jaguar Land Rover have announced plans to sell electric or hybrid versions of their existing petrol and diesel engine ranges.
VW, for instance, plans to spend 20bn euros (£17.5bn) by 2030 to develop its battery powered vehicles.
Sir James said he had been interested since 1990 in developing filtration technology to stop vehicle diesel emissions polluting the environment.
But as the motor industry had shown no interest in adopting this idea, he would instead join the fast-growing trend to make electric vehicles.
Dyson to make electric cars from 2020 By Ian Pollock Business reporter, BBC News 26 September 2017
Sir James Dyson accused the mainstream car industry of polluting the world with diesel emissions
Dyson, the engineering company best known for its vacuum cleaners and fans, plans to spend £2bn developing a "radical" electric car.
The battery-powered vehicle is due to be launched in 2020.
Dyson says 400 staff have been working on the secret project for the past two years at its headquarters in Malmesbury, Wiltshire.
However, the car does not yet exist, with no prototype built, and a factory site is yet to be chosen.
Sir James declined to give further details of the project. "Competition for new technology in the automotive industry is fierce and we must do everything we can to keep the specifics of our vehicle confidential," he told staff in an email.
Important points that are undecided or secret include the firm's expected annual production total, the cost of the car, or its range or top speed.
Sir James said about £1bn would be spent on developing the car, with another £1bn on making the battery.
Analysis: Richard Westcott, BBC transport correspondent
It was a slightly unusual launch, but then, Sir James Dyson likes to be different.
In a small room above his swanky London shop he told us about his vision for a clean car.
First up, we were treated to an old clip of Blue Peter, from the 90s, where Anthea Turner interviewed him about his new device to clean soot from the exhaust of diesel vehicles... it was the cyclone from his vacuum cleaner, put to a different use.
"That is how long I have wanted to do this," he told us.
In fact he first hatched the idea in the late 1980s.
Since then, he has developed motors and batteries and now he is able to bring all that expertise together in a new, electric car.
He promised that it will be radical and different, because, as he put it, what is the point of making it like any other car?
And he promised that it will not be cheap.
I did ask how much it would be to put down a deposit... he told me he would have to think about it.
Further development work will take place at a former RAF base at Hullavington in Wiltshire, where staff will move to in February.
Sir James also said that his firm's car would look "radical and different", but will not be aimed at the mass market.
The motor is designed and ready to go, he said, but the firm is still designing the car.
Dyson's decision means it is joining the rush within the global car industry to develop and make electric cars.
Dyson hopes to challenge other electric car manufacturers such as Tesla
Some manufacturers such as Nissan, Tesla, Renault, BMW and Hyundai already manufacture them.
Others such as VW, Volvo, Mercedes, Honda and Jaguar Land Rover have announced plans to sell electric or hybrid versions of their existing petrol and diesel engine ranges.
VW, for instance, plans to spend 20bn euros (£17.5bn) by 2030 to develop its battery powered vehicles.
Sir James said he had been interested since 1990 in developing filtration technology to stop vehicle diesel emissions polluting the environment.
But as the motor industry had shown no interest in adopting this idea, he would instead join the fast-growing trend to make electric vehicles.
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.."factory site yet to be chosen..."
This from a guy who does his manufacturing in the Far East, mainly Malaysia.
This from a guy who does his manufacturing in the Far East, mainly Malaysia.
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Chris Hazlewood and Andrew Gough from Dyson attended the Hullavington Parish Council meeting held on Wednesday 13th September to give an update on how development of the airfield is progressing.
The planning application for the two hangars, 85 and 86, near Stock Wood was submitted to Wiltshire Council on 13th March with an expected decision date of 12th June. However, Highways England asked for a three-month delay on 26th April and on 21st July, a further 3-month delay was requested by them, before a decision was made.
This was mainly because of work being done at Junction 17 and the impact that the Chippenham Gateway development will have on the motorway. WYG, the agents for Dyson, are currently working with Wiltshire Council on this matter.
Work on Hangar 86 that does not need planning permission is proceeding, mainly sorting out the inside of that hangar, getting rid of asbestos etc. Currently the doors of that hangar are resting on the airfield prior to being refurbished and replaced.
Work on Hangar 85 was halted because Greater Crested Newts were found on the site. A new sanctuary has been made for them to the south of the hangar and in due course they will be re-homed there.
Work has also started on Hangar 81 at E site (to the left of the Grittleton road as you leave the village). This hangar had the grass covering removed many years ago but this will be replaced as part of the refurbishment and the hangar will be used as a Research and Development area when refurbished, access to this area will be from the airfield.
This work does not need planning permission but an application for a Certificate of Lawfulness will be submitted.
Concern from a parishioner at the meeting, regarding the junction of the C31 with the A429, was raised, it is considered that this problem will be addressed when the Masterplan is submitted to Wiltshire Council.
Mention was also made about the proliferation of light aircraft flying over the airfield. This is because it no longer comes under Lyneham Control Zone and Area jurisdiction so anyone can fly over the airfield now!
The planning application for the two hangars, 85 and 86, near Stock Wood was submitted to Wiltshire Council on 13th March with an expected decision date of 12th June. However, Highways England asked for a three-month delay on 26th April and on 21st July, a further 3-month delay was requested by them, before a decision was made.
This was mainly because of work being done at Junction 17 and the impact that the Chippenham Gateway development will have on the motorway. WYG, the agents for Dyson, are currently working with Wiltshire Council on this matter.
Work on Hangar 86 that does not need planning permission is proceeding, mainly sorting out the inside of that hangar, getting rid of asbestos etc. Currently the doors of that hangar are resting on the airfield prior to being refurbished and replaced.
Work on Hangar 85 was halted because Greater Crested Newts were found on the site. A new sanctuary has been made for them to the south of the hangar and in due course they will be re-homed there.
Work has also started on Hangar 81 at E site (to the left of the Grittleton road as you leave the village). This hangar had the grass covering removed many years ago but this will be replaced as part of the refurbishment and the hangar will be used as a Research and Development area when refurbished, access to this area will be from the airfield.
This work does not need planning permission but an application for a Certificate of Lawfulness will be submitted.
Concern from a parishioner at the meeting, regarding the junction of the C31 with the A429, was raised, it is considered that this problem will be addressed when the Masterplan is submitted to Wiltshire Council.
Mention was also made about the proliferation of light aircraft flying over the airfield. This is because it no longer comes under Lyneham Control Zone and Area jurisdiction so anyone can fly over the airfield now!
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I did my first ever Air Training Corps summer camp here with 140 Matlock sqn in August 1960.
5 years later I started my Nav. training at Cranwell & subsequently enjoyed nearly 30 years on Shacks & Nimrods. Happy days.
5 years later I started my Nav. training at Cranwell & subsequently enjoyed nearly 30 years on Shacks & Nimrods. Happy days.
How strange to be planning on doing cutting edge state of the art research in refurbished asbestos ridden 82 year old buildings.
Just build from new, surely?
Just build from new, surely?
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Hopefully this link will work and shows an artists impression of how Hangars 86 and 85 will look when refurbished.
http://unidoc.wiltshire.gov.uk/UniDo...VMLDk1NDU1OA==
http://unidoc.wiltshire.gov.uk/UniDo...VMLDk1NDU1OA==
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I trained at Hullavington in 1964. A great place and excellent training. Really good Officers Mess. I believe it is now back in very safe hands. Good luck to him.
140WP,
That does look impressive, those D type hangars are quite impressive in their own right and certainly large.
I didn't realise that he was developing the remote hangar site. Wonder what will happen to the main site?
That does look impressive, those D type hangars are quite impressive in their own right and certainly large.
I didn't realise that he was developing the remote hangar site. Wonder what will happen to the main site?
navstar1,
The Officers mess is, and remains, an Army Mess for the resident Army unit. Not sure if or when the main site is closing.
The Officers mess is, and remains, an Army Mess for the resident Army unit. Not sure if or when the main site is closing.
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pr00ne The development of the main site will be revealed in the "Masterplan" Residents of Hullavington are eagerly awaiting to see this application when it is submitted to Wiltshire Council for planning permission. At the recent Parish Council meeting Chris Hazelwood said that it would take 10 years before the site was fully completed! Hope I am still around to see it!
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140WP,
Thanks, interesting.
Earlier on you mentioned hangar 81, one of the grassed storage hangars, and it being converted for Research and Development use? I presume that is not as a part of the Dyson set up, a speculative conversion or for another customer?
It would be nice to think that at least some of the domestic site buildings will be preserved at least in their external appearance. I know that Hullavington is a standard expansion era RAF station, with standardised Georgian style buildings identical to those found at scores of stations up and down the country, and now in a myriad of uses, but I think I am right in saying that Hullavington is unique in that some of the key domestic buildings were built out of local material, in this case Cotswold stone?
Thanks, interesting.
Earlier on you mentioned hangar 81, one of the grassed storage hangars, and it being converted for Research and Development use? I presume that is not as a part of the Dyson set up, a speculative conversion or for another customer?
It would be nice to think that at least some of the domestic site buildings will be preserved at least in their external appearance. I know that Hullavington is a standard expansion era RAF station, with standardised Georgian style buildings identical to those found at scores of stations up and down the country, and now in a myriad of uses, but I think I am right in saying that Hullavington is unique in that some of the key domestic buildings were built out of local material, in this case Cotswold stone?