Maritime Patrol Capability: The SDSR’s Wolf Whistle
That's because the new, leaner aircrew don't eat them any more - even ancient aircrew have fitness tests these days.
JAVELINBOY, those galley ladies wouldn't have been able to work without interference on the 'Mighty Muncher'....
But as the P-8A doesn't have an air engineer, they should be OK on that!
But as the P-8A doesn't have an air engineer, they should be OK on that!
Mighty Muncher indeed a lasting memory of an aef on a Nimrod was watching one munch through a multi deck sandwich consisting of half a sliced loaf with assorted fillings, he didn't even drop a crumb.
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Nine aircraft may not sound like a lot, but it really depends upon availability.
I flew around 6,000 hours on the Nimrod, a fair proportion of those with important bits of kit either not working or not even present in the first place. Some days, out of the serried ranks of aircraft sat out on the Line, only very few were truly serviceable.
I now have 5000 hours plus on the 737, and instruct on the -800 and guess what? Nearly every single time you get into one it works as advertised! Now of course we don't have mission equipment to worry about, but I would be prepared to bet modern reliability is an order of magnitude better than that of previous generations.
Looked at in that way, you should get a pretty solid capability from 9 modern well equipped jets - just as long as the good old RAF does not fall into the trap of over engineering every aspect of maintenance and support that is.
I flew around 6,000 hours on the Nimrod, a fair proportion of those with important bits of kit either not working or not even present in the first place. Some days, out of the serried ranks of aircraft sat out on the Line, only very few were truly serviceable.
I now have 5000 hours plus on the 737, and instruct on the -800 and guess what? Nearly every single time you get into one it works as advertised! Now of course we don't have mission equipment to worry about, but I would be prepared to bet modern reliability is an order of magnitude better than that of previous generations.
Looked at in that way, you should get a pretty solid capability from 9 modern well equipped jets - just as long as the good old RAF does not fall into the trap of over engineering every aspect of maintenance and support that is.
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I flew around 6,000 hours on the Nimrod, a fair proportion of those with important bits of kit either not working or not even present in the first place. Some days, out of the serried ranks of aircraft sat out on the Line, only very few were truly serviceable.
You were obviously based at Kinloss! I never had problems like that in all my happy & serviceable years on 42 (TB) Sqn!!
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http://www.pprune.org/military-aviat...ml#post8579903: Post 498, July last year.
The RAF is buying into a US Program, not just an aircraft. That's a (surprisingly) smart thing to do. We get the upgrades when they get the upgrades, we get to influence the upgrades, we get massive gearing on US investment.
Best defence decision in years.
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The RAF is buying into a US Program, not just an aircraft. That's a (surprisingly) smart thing to do. We get the upgrades when they get the upgrades, we get to influence the upgrades, we get massive gearing on US investment.
Best defence decision in years.
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you were obviously based at Kinloss! I never had problems like that in all my happy & serviceable years on 42 (TB) Sqn!!
And that was in the 80's. If you'd flown the old beast in the late nineties,early noughties, you'd routinely have been getting airborne with a bits and bobs limmed all over the shop.
Lets not get too rose tinted over the old girl...she was mighty fine kite, but what really made her tick was the bods who flew her and fixed her.
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TOFO, I was lucky to fly in new aircraft throughout my career with the exception of 24 year old Shacks, even the Anson was only 20 and the Lanc 25.
I last flew in the Nimrod when it was a bare 10 years old. I was invited on board one at RIAT when it was then 35 years old. I was amazed and in a way distressed at how shabby it was.
Regardless of the magic kit being upgraded, if modern aircraft are to serve 35 years and more then the whole plane needs to be refurbished.
I last flew in the Nimrod when it was a bare 10 years old. I was invited on board one at RIAT when it was then 35 years old. I was amazed and in a way distressed at how shabby it was.
Regardless of the magic kit being upgraded, if modern aircraft are to serve 35 years and more then the whole plane needs to be refurbished.
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You were obviously based at Kinloss! I never had problems like that in all my happy & serviceable years on 42 (TB) Sqn!!
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U.K. Strives To Become More Reliable Defense Partner | Defense content from Aviation Week
Prime Minister David Cameron told the House of Commons that the U.K. P-8s would have “a major British component”
It sounds like they will have a pie warmer in the galley after all.
Prime Minister David Cameron told the House of Commons that the U.K. P-8s would have “a major British component”
It sounds like they will have a pie warmer in the galley after all.
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Will this change the unit price?
OK, what is spent in UK stays in UK, but how much will it cost to change the basic design?
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Maritime Patrol Capability. The SDSR's Wolf Whistle
Going back 64 years, the Americans "lent" us fifty Neptunes because the Shackletons were only slowly coming off the production line. Perhaps they would lend us some of their current Maritime aircraft until the P8 becomes available - and we could be in business again.