Which role should I do?
RG, the banging the head against a brick wall and the "censored" icons are just plain rude when people here are offering their advice to you.
Next time make your own mind up instead.
Next time make your own mind up instead.
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CM, Et all,
I here what you're saying, but!
I had a long chat with an (admittedly American), English teacher this weekend, and they no-longer (in 'Murica), teach spelling, grammar or syntax.
When I asked her, "Why"? She replied, "The internet does that for you now".
It's a valid point, to which I had no answer.
I, as an individual, can't get all bent out of shape by spelling, commas and all the rest.
In the new age of text language, the rules will be torn up. Get used to it. I'm sick off the English pedants that attempt to be-little those that don't obey their rules. If you understand the message, who cares! I'm also fairly sure that I can make those pedants look like utter fools if they engage me on a topic that doesn't involve English.
I'll bang my head on the OP's behalf, the pedants can just **** off!
I here what you're saying, but!
I had a long chat with an (admittedly American), English teacher this weekend, and they no-longer (in 'Murica), teach spelling, grammar or syntax.
When I asked her, "Why"? She replied, "The internet does that for you now".
It's a valid point, to which I had no answer.
I, as an individual, can't get all bent out of shape by spelling, commas and all the rest.
In the new age of text language, the rules will be torn up. Get used to it. I'm sick off the English pedants that attempt to be-little those that don't obey their rules. If you understand the message, who cares! I'm also fairly sure that I can make those pedants look like utter fools if they engage me on a topic that doesn't involve English.
I'll bang my head on the OP's behalf, the pedants can just **** off!
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RG56
As an aircraft technician a very important and safety critical part of the job, is the ability to communicate clearly and accurately, both verbally and in writing.
Any chance you have to practice your communication skills is worth taking, even if it results in criticism.
By the way I would suggest that Avionics is the trade to go for, but I maybe slightly biased....
As an aircraft technician a very important and safety critical part of the job, is the ability to communicate clearly and accurately, both verbally and in writing.
Any chance you have to practice your communication skills is worth taking, even if it results in criticism.
By the way I would suggest that Avionics is the trade to go for, but I maybe slightly biased....
In the new age of text language, the rules will be torn up. Get used to it. I'm sick off the English pedants that attempt to be-little those that don't obey their rules. If you understand the message, who cares! I'm also fairly sure that I can make those pedants look like utter fools if they engage me on a topic that doesn't involve English.
Given 2 applicants with the same qualifications I used to favour the one with decent grammar and spelling.
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FFS! Are you boys for real?
RG ignore all the negative comments from the dinosaurs about your post.
Do what you think you will enjoy the most, congratulations on getting a good result and having these options.
Avionics is a fine choice and you will have good career options post service if that is a route you eventually choose.
RG ignore all the negative comments from the dinosaurs about your post.
Do what you think you will enjoy the most, congratulations on getting a good result and having these options.
Avionics is a fine choice and you will have good career options post service if that is a route you eventually choose.
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RG, my kids are about your age and I admit I was incredulous when I found that their teachers did not correct spelling in any written work. The more mature posters on here possibly do not realise exactly how the 3 R's are now taught in modern Britain.
All the best with your application.
All the best with your application.
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Just an observation. I doesn't look to me like anyone is being negative or criticising and there is no sign at all of anyone having a go. All I see is a lot of very good advice about possible choices and some wise counsel about the use of English. The latter isn't criticism, just wise words offered in a helpful way and prompted by a couple of posts that need reading twice to understand fully.
Perhaps it's worth understanding that RG states he doesn't intend to write like that outside of the Internet and those that offered comment on it were only being helpful to someone that came here asking for advice.
Perhaps the original post is a good example of why it's worth writing in English to avoid confusion and giving the wrong impression to people. Even on the Internet.
Off to bed now.
Perhaps it's worth understanding that RG states he doesn't intend to write like that outside of the Internet and those that offered comment on it were only being helpful to someone that came here asking for advice.
Perhaps the original post is a good example of why it's worth writing in English to avoid confusion and giving the wrong impression to people. Even on the Internet.
Off to bed now.
It's not about the quality of the English as such - it's about the military looking to recruit people who set and maintain their own high standards, who attempt their very best at everything they do, as opposed to only doing their best when they're being assessed, when they think it's important, etc.
An attitude of, "it's only the internet", and "I'll do better when it matters", etc, which is often seen on here from many of the younger generation, reflects on the personal standards of the individual - like it or not.
Then again - maybe I'm a dinosaur. Maybe I'm still thinking about the attitude of the military I joined, as opposed to the military of today?
Standing by for incoming...
An attitude of, "it's only the internet", and "I'll do better when it matters", etc, which is often seen on here from many of the younger generation, reflects on the personal standards of the individual - like it or not.
Then again - maybe I'm a dinosaur. Maybe I'm still thinking about the attitude of the military I joined, as opposed to the military of today?
Standing by for incoming...
Occasionally I assist in sifting applications for certain scholarships. The applicants are required to complete the application form in their own handwriting and to use no more than the specified number of words for a couple of short essays.
It is surprising to note the generally poor standards we receive. Moreover, some applicants do not even provide the appropriate answers to the questions posed. For example, where exam grades are required to be stated, some applicants don't bother to do so.
Interestingly, it is often those for whom English is not their first language who produce the best-written applications. Perhaps that's indicative of the general standard of basic education in our schools these days? But what hope is there when even some teachers refer to the 3 Rs using the grocer's apostrophe.....
It is surprising to note the generally poor standards we receive. Moreover, some applicants do not even provide the appropriate answers to the questions posed. For example, where exam grades are required to be stated, some applicants don't bother to do so.
Interestingly, it is often those for whom English is not their first language who produce the best-written applications. Perhaps that's indicative of the general standard of basic education in our schools these days? But what hope is there when even some teachers refer to the 3 Rs using the grocer's apostrophe.....
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25 years ago I corrected a Geography mistress who had written that the sun rose in the west.
She responded that she knew that it wad east and had made a mistake.
I guess the logical conclusion is that any wrong answer is right if the pupil knew it was write and writ it wrong. (Sic)
She responded that she knew that it wad east and had made a mistake.
I guess the logical conclusion is that any wrong answer is right if the pupil knew it was write and writ it wrong. (Sic)
I was shocked (and dismayed) when a friend informed me that children in this part of Canada were no longer taught how to "write" (joined-up as I call it), but are now only required to print (in capitals).
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My daughter was being taught to spell phonetically at school.
In consultation with her teacher that's been binned for her, along with the stupid fluffy "homework" set by the school. Instead she's being taught proper spelling and punctuation.
In consultation with her teacher that's been binned for her, along with the stupid fluffy "homework" set by the school. Instead she's being taught proper spelling and punctuation.
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During your first visit to Halton, on your Pre-Recruit Training Course, you'll be required to submit a hand written piece which will be used, amongst other things, to assess your writing and communication skills. Perhaps getting into the habit could be useful. Adittionally, during your time at RTS, you'll have to learn to live by the four RAF core values: Respect, Integrity, Service before Self and Excellence. These four core values apply to evey single aspect of RAF life. I would opine that in some of the replies you have made on this thread, towards people who for all you know are serving members, some maybe in the training and/or the selection business, would not follow these values. People here are trying to help you, remember you asked for their advice. Of couse, I know you have not been given instruction in these values yet but now you are aware, why not try putting them into practice.
You also need to understand perceptions and how you come accross to people.
Please don't wait until 'you go down to Cosford' before you decide to communicate properly, if not done before that, you may not get there.
Good luck in whichever trade you decide upon.
During your first visit to Halton, on your Pre-Recruit Training Course, you'll be required to submit a hand written piece which will be used, amongst other things, to assess your writing and communication skills. Perhaps getting into the habit could be useful. Adittionally, during your time at RTS, you'll have to learn to live by the four RAF core values: Respect, Integrity, Service before Self and Excellence. These four core values apply to evey single aspect of RAF life. I would opine that in some of the replies you have made on this thread, towards people who for all you know are serving members, some maybe in the training and/or the selection business, would not follow these values. People here are trying to help you, remember you asked for their advice. Of couse, I know you have not been given instruction in these values yet but now you are aware, why not try putting them into practice.
You also need to understand perceptions and how you come accross to people.
Please don't wait until 'you go down to Cosford' before you decide to communicate properly, if not done before that, you may not get there.
Good luck in whichever trade you decide upon.
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