First Strike of the Falklands War

[JointShiteFighter]

I hadn't seen this documentary before until a friend e-mailed me the YouTube link, so I'm sharing it here for all who haven't yet seen it, but are interested.

[BossEyed]

Here's how the thread's going to go:

"Missed the Runway"

"No they didn't"

"Yes they did"

<Repeat until bored, noting that no-one who posts on this subject ever gets bored>

Then: "What about the GR3s?"





(Note that the above is solely a comment on PPRuNe, not on the astounding events of 1982)

[Darvan]

One can always debate the Shrike attacks for a change (BBs 4, 5 and 6). Very little is known or has been discussed about these to date.

[Courtney Mil]

Darvan,

There is stuff around the public domain about those, but there are also some sensitivities. Pretty obviously. Also, the Argies were pretty smart about stopping emissions at the right time to limit effectiveness.

Plenty is known about the later BB attacks, it's just not all out there.

[54Phan]

Thanks for sharing that.

[JointShiteFighter]

How long do the military historians have to wait before all of the information gets released?

[StuartP]

Did they / didn't they

It lasted until post 3 last time.

http://www.pprune.org/military-aviat...ring-raid.html

Thanks - always worth watching again.

[Archimedes]

Originally Posted by Joint****eFighter

How long do the military historians have to wait before all of the information gets released?

JSF - an awful lot of it is out, but there are a number of items which are either subject to redaction and/or retained until at least 2022 - it doesn't take the brains of an archbishop to work out that the word 'Chile' features in many of these. Other items, because of the way they have been collated, are contained in files which the final pieces are less than 30 years old and are a few months away from release.

[Marcantilan]

How long do the military historians have to wait before all of the information gets released?

Iīve been in the NA and collected a lot of info about BB missions. What you are looking for exactly? Let me know, maybe I could help. Regards!

[MAINJAFAD]

One can always debate the Shrike attacks for a change (BBs 4, 5 and 6). Very little is known or has been discussed about these to date.

Your post on the http://www.pprune.org/military-aviat...ml#post7132613 thread answered a lot of questions, however the reference to the ILS type meter used by the AEO begs the question, was that instrument part of the normal Vulcan EW fit, or was it the kit out of the Buccaneer used to aim the AR Martel?

[Darvan]

It was not part of the Martel fit from the Bucc but came with the Shrike cocpit instrumentation system supplied by the U.S. Authorities.

[smujsmith]

With the greatest respect to the BB missions, I've recently read Exocet Falklands by Ewan Southby-Tailyour, and what a read it is. From the aircrew point of view , I'm sure (not mine, I'm just a techy), if the mission had ever proceeded it would have really been a gutsy piece of work. Having spent time "en route" with a couple of the characters involved, I have no doubt of their intent to carry out the job, had it been launched. For anyone with an interest in the Falklands conflict, I would recommend this tome.

Smudge

[JointShiteFighter]

Iīve been in the NA and collected a lot of info about BB missions. What you are looking for exactly? Let me know, maybe I could help. Regards!

Thanks, but the majority of the information, as has been said is in the public domain so I probably already know it, although the currently sensitive stuff can wait until it is released. My morals and my allegiance comes before curiosity and since I wasn't there and said information is currently on a 'need to know' basis, I'd rather not know.

[Pontius Navigator]

JSF, don't dismiss Marcantilian so lightly. What he has published before was generally new to many on here. He is not breaching the OSA, not least as it does not apply to him.

If you have a question I am sure he would give you an accurate answer from the primary data of the time.

[Javie Guerrero]

JFS, what Poncio Navigator says is true, can ask without fear of Marcantilan. There is a lot of information disqualified about many topics

[Marcantilan]

the currently sensitive stuff can wait until it is released.

And thatīs why I have the info. Because it was already released!

[Courtney Mil]

...that which has been released.

[JointShiteFighter]

PN, quite. Apologies Marcantilan, I just didn't want to be seen to try to fish for sensitive info, something I'd never do.

Roughly how long did it take for the French to cease all technical support to Argentina for the Exocet cruise missiles? Fortunately that b****** Galtieri only had 5 at his disposal otherwise he could have done a lot worse to our fleet than he did.

[Courtney Mil]

JSF, you might want to rephrase your question. Good question, but no need for the expletive. Especially when asking a question of a well respected Argentinean historian of the Falklands war. He may or may not disagree with your assessment of a man from a time before you were born, but you (nor I) don't know that.

[Bicster]

XM607

I was an MTD and served from 1991 until 2004. I was posted to Waddington from 1994 until 1999. This might be the most stupid post in this thread but I just thought id tell you all anyway. Every time I went out of the camp gates, turned left and saw XM607 id say "see you in a bit sweetheart" and on my return "hi sweetheart, thanks for looking after me". All before I knew what this aircraft and her crew achieved. I think she deserves to be indoors, or would it be more fitting for her to see her days out at Waddington at the WAVE?