Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

A330 AWACS

Old 10th Apr 2015, 06:01
  #1 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 10,274
A330 AWACS

AW&ST:

"India is to equip two Airbus A330s with an indigenously developed airborne early warning and control system, with eventual plans for six aircraft budgeted at 5 billion rupees ($840 million). Boeing did not bid. Airbus will design and certify a 10-meter dia. (33-ft.) radome to house the electronically scanned radar."
ORAC is offline  
Old 10th Apr 2015, 06:16
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Australia
Age: 60
Posts: 55
Whacko...get ready for the fun. And it should be a long-running show.
Trackmaster is offline  
Old 10th Apr 2015, 07:35
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Somewhere flat
Age: 64
Posts: 4,033
Does it have a Pulse Dopiaza radar?
Wensleydale is offline  
Old 10th Apr 2015, 08:09
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Just over the road from Bicester airfield
Age: 76
Posts: 364
A330

I guess our foreign aid budget will finance it as well !!!!!!.
zetec2 is online now  
Old 10th Apr 2015, 08:16
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Posts: 25,578
Back in 1997, Airbus Industrie was developing an AEW&C version of the A310 with Raytheon E-Systems and ELTA Electronics Industries Ltd, who would have supplied the electronically scanned array radar. It was planned to have mission duration of over 11 hours:

BEagle is offline  
Old 10th Apr 2015, 08:49
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: France
Age: 76
Posts: 6,385
not an "R1" version as well was there?
Wander00 is offline  
Old 10th Apr 2015, 09:04
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Lincoln
Posts: 68
Why bother, they can have ours in a few months after the next Government's SDSR. If Milibland gets in they can probably have a few Trident missiles and subs as well (provided Mrs Sturgeon and her Salmon boss approve).
Grumpy106 is offline  
Old 10th Apr 2015, 09:29
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: England
Posts: 577
Spending lots of money on this project will at least give those living in slums and having an open street sewer for a toilet something to look up and marvel at as it flies overhead as they're parking their breakfast.
P6 Driver is offline  
Old 10th Apr 2015, 10:15
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Somewhere flat
Age: 64
Posts: 4,033
One wonders whether they will run the crew hierarchy on the Caste system (much like the USAF crew).
Wensleydale is offline  
Old 10th Apr 2015, 10:45
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Far far away
Age: 49
Posts: 715
The airframe certainly has the real estate to accommodate a number of systems. The MRTT could also be further developed for limited AW&C - making it truly Multi-Role. However, I suspect there will be a trade-off between endurance/fuel load and ZFW, an A330 AWACS version may carry a maximum of around 80,000Kgs. That would give it a max unrefuelled flight time of around 12 hours, which seems pretty reasonable.
D-IFF_ident is offline  
Old 10th Apr 2015, 12:41
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Pays Basque
Posts: 579
Had a look around a newly completed Japanese E-767 at Boeing Field once.. the amount of unused space inside is staggering.. even with the mission consoles set 4 abreast. Humongous flight deck as well. The wide-body configuration of the 767 offers 50% more floor space and nearly twice the volume of the 707.
sidevalve is online now  
Old 10th Apr 2015, 12:55
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Somewhere flat
Age: 64
Posts: 4,033
SV - more room to bring back red wine from deployments then!
Wensleydale is offline  
Old 10th Apr 2015, 13:06
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 1,904
I'm sure it'll be a great platform for a radar. A bit big maybe? It'll certainly be able to stay on station as long as anything. I'm also sure that contractually it'll be a big bunfight. On my last Indian trip we shared a hotel with some BAe engineers who had been there four days without receiving the passes to allow them onto base to start fixing their aircraft.
ShotOne is offline  
Old 10th Apr 2015, 20:36
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Penzance, Cornwall UK
Age: 80
Posts: 32
I'm sure it'll be a great platform for a radar. A bit big maybe? It'll certainly be able to stay on station as long as anything. I'm also sure that contractually it'll be a big bunfight. On my last Indian trip we shared a hotel with some BAe engineers who had been there four days without receiving the passes to allow them onto base to start fixing their aircraft.


It was ever thus as their national 'flair' for bureaucracy is simply staggering.
Rosevidney1 is offline  
Old 11th Apr 2015, 11:02
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: London, New York, Paris, Moscow.
Posts: 3,632
Originally Posted by ShotOne View Post
I'm sure it'll be a great platform for a radar. A bit big maybe? It'll certainly be able to stay on station as long as anything. I'm also sure that contractually it'll be a big bunfight. On my last Indian trip we shared a hotel with some BAe engineers who had been there four days without receiving the passes to allow them onto base to start fixing their aircraft.
That's because they hadn't finished screwing it back together ...
glad rag is offline  
Old 11th Apr 2015, 11:27
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Pays Basque
Posts: 579
SV - more room to bring back red wine from deployments then!
More room yes - but still not quite enough!
sidevalve is online now  
Old 11th Apr 2015, 17:35
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: liverpool uk
Age: 63
Posts: 1,162
It was ever thus as their national 'flair' for bureaucracy is simply staggering.
Oh yes indeed plus a large dollop of manyana.
air pig is online now  
Old 12th Apr 2015, 10:10
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: london,uk
Posts: 567
Spending lots of money on this project will at least give those living in slums and having an open street sewer for a toilet something to look up and marvel at as it flies overhead as they're parking their breakfast.
Why is racist *** like this allowed in this forum?

India is a the one biggest buyer of military equipment, money that will help pay for the UK forces. Too many of the recipients of UK taxpayers funds seem all to keen to insult the source of those funds, I wish you would grow up.
peter we is offline  
Old 12th Apr 2015, 10:32
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 16,673
I cannot see anything racist in pointing out the vast majority of the populace live in abject poverty and squalor, while the country choses to spend vast amounts of money in enlarging their defence and space budgets, something that will never lift them out of being a third world country.
NutLoose is offline  
Old 12th Apr 2015, 11:04
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: The Whyte House
Age: 91
Posts: 1,885
India is a the one biggest buyer of military equipment, money that will help pay for the UK forces
Lately? 17 Hawks, and err, not much else.

The vast majority of military imports are American or Russian. They have also taken to manufacturing their own stuff, dashed cheek if you ask me.
Willard Whyte is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.