230 Sqn shenannigans?
OD et al, at JCSS in 69 I was the "accused" at the CM; and having just lost my aircrew medical cat I was specially selected to be tried for an alleged low-flying offence, over Ashbourne I recall. Against the usual run of the case I was found guilty, and the wags on the Court decided that I should be sentenced to be deprived of my flying badge, harsh in the circumstances I felt. but it was all done with good humour, and stood me in good stead in my second regular career when I sat on a CM of a Cpl chef accused of stealing chickens (frozen).
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Court Martialled for thieving frozen chickens? That must have been an entertaining charge sheet.
Wing Commanders head-butting juniors, NCOs robbing frozen chickens, drunken senior officers drink-driving coaches and LRs, what's next?
Wing Commanders head-butting juniors, NCOs robbing frozen chickens, drunken senior officers drink-driving coaches and LRs, what's next?
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There was the chap on his charge upon being awarded a derisory fiver sniggered, he was prompty marched out, charged for sniggering, marched in again, ( he claimed he tried to contain a sneeze ).... when it came to the "will you accept my punishment or elect for court marshal" he elected for court marshal, strangely it all went quiet. BTW the charge was promptly dropped.
There was the chap on his charge upon being awarded a derisory fiver sniggered .... - Nutty
Which, at the risk of thread drift, reminds me of the no doubt apocryphal story of the Midshipman who appeared before the Chairman of Gieves in the latter's capacity as a magistrate and, on being fined £5, asked for the fine to be put on his Gieves account.
Jack
Which, at the risk of thread drift, reminds me of the no doubt apocryphal story of the Midshipman who appeared before the Chairman of Gieves in the latter's capacity as a magistrate and, on being fined £5, asked for the fine to be put on his Gieves account.
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On my return to regular service and after my Admin Sec course I was posted to B.....k. On arrival I was told 3 things by my predecessor in pst Mike C....s
1. You are SDO next weekend
2. you are O i/c Guard of Honour
3. On Monday you start a Summary of Evidence against an SAC for amongst other things taking and driving away the Stn Cdr's staff car, theft of petrol and sundry other charges which I no longer recall, and if the Summary is accepted you will also prosecute at the CM.
The only part of that lot which did not occur was the "prosecuting officer" bit. But the summary was quite entertaining as I recall, and revolved round getting parts for repair of a car to his parents' home and an errant girlfriend. Also interesting evidence as I recall about where the keys were kept.
And a good time was had by all!
1. You are SDO next weekend
2. you are O i/c Guard of Honour
3. On Monday you start a Summary of Evidence against an SAC for amongst other things taking and driving away the Stn Cdr's staff car, theft of petrol and sundry other charges which I no longer recall, and if the Summary is accepted you will also prosecute at the CM.
The only part of that lot which did not occur was the "prosecuting officer" bit. But the summary was quite entertaining as I recall, and revolved round getting parts for repair of a car to his parents' home and an errant girlfriend. Also interesting evidence as I recall about where the keys were kept.
And a good time was had by all!
Wg Cdr Baron
I was on JOCC with the defendant. It's fair to say that, whatever happens from here on in, his career took more of an upward trajectory than my own in terms of rank.
I won't comment on the case since I know him (not very well admittedly), but I will just add that regardless of the outcome he is a man who has done his fair share of operations judging by the collection of metal on the left breast of his No 1s.
Unlike the Sqn Ldr / Cocaine thread I'm glad to see we haven't had too much 'holier than thou' garbage spouted so far.
BV
I won't comment on the case since I know him (not very well admittedly), but I will just add that regardless of the outcome he is a man who has done his fair share of operations judging by the collection of metal on the left breast of his No 1s.
Unlike the Sqn Ldr / Cocaine thread I'm glad to see we haven't had too much 'holier than thou' garbage spouted so far.
BV
What a great idea - Clarkson for Court Martial or even an Orderly Room.
"Would you like to go for trial or will you accept my punishment?"
C: "I'll take your punishment"
"OK, wear a pink spandex leotard, and, whenever you drive a car you will tow a caravan. This will last for 4 weeks. Dismissed..."
"Would you like to go for trial or will you accept my punishment?"
C: "I'll take your punishment"
"OK, wear a pink spandex leotard, and, whenever you drive a car you will tow a caravan. This will last for 4 weeks. Dismissed..."
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Back in the 60s, our sqn cdr, later OC Tengah (not Mike Knight), and finally retired as an AM, was a jolly good egg. He used to carry a bull whip, punch his compiling on the arm, sufficient to dead arm him and in short was a bully.
I last met him as he was coming through a doorway. He gave me double handed blow below my rib cage and asked me how I was.
yo uhh
But as a jolly good egg they kept promoting him.
I last met him as he was coming through a doorway. He gave me double handed blow below my rib cage and asked me how I was.
yo uhh
But as a jolly good egg they kept promoting him.
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Our Wing Co in Germany used the football system and used to carry a red and yellow card in his pocket, yellow was a warning at which the offender tended to get removed from sight and the follow up red for continued offending was a my office tomorrow morning notification... seemed a sensible idea to me and appeared to work.
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Nutty, That's a much more civilised way than the head butt method...
P.s. Question is, in your time in the mob, did young airmen use the same way of indicating their displeasure after a few tinnys?
P.s. Question is, in your time in the mob, did young airmen use the same way of indicating their displeasure after a few tinnys?
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Shy, like the Army driver mentioned in today's press, or a flt lt guilty of ABH, if you are essential the penalty might be moderated.
Once, after our 16 st admin clerk chastised, with extreme prejudice, a diminutive Glaswegian MT driver. The MTD got 28 days but our man was only fined a month's pay. OC MT was p..d off, but we suggested our man might wish to volunteer for a 28-day night shift during a major exercise.
Once, after our 16 st admin clerk chastised, with extreme prejudice, a diminutive Glaswegian MT driver. The MTD got 28 days but our man was only fined a month's pay. OC MT was p..d off, but we suggested our man might wish to volunteer for a 28-day night shift during a major exercise.
At B....k a not very bright but hefty FLM was accused by his slight and diminutive wife of beating her up. Complaint had come via her aunt. He was dealt with administratively, but within days his Mum was on the phone to OC 11, demanding to see the stn cdr (DC). She was fielded by OC 11, but still demanded an interview with the Staish.I am not sure how, but she was bounced from top office to me (OC PSF) via OC Admin and OC PMS. I said I was not prepared to discuss the matter with her (large woman, lots of bling, and husband little, cloth cap, more worried about his pigeons) but if Bloggs was prepared to be interviewed by me in his parents' presence, so be it (he was 27 for goodness sake).
Started off gently enough, but then suddenly asked him "had he beaten his wife?". He, without thinking said "Yes". He was immediately lifted by the ear from his chair by his mother, who apologised for bothering us and took him I suspect to give him a good dusting behind the bike sheds. Certainly never heard any more complaints, but did find at least a wg cdr and a sqn ldr in the stair well listening to the interview as best they could. OCAW bought me a beer that night too.
Started off gently enough, but then suddenly asked him "had he beaten his wife?". He, without thinking said "Yes". He was immediately lifted by the ear from his chair by his mother, who apologised for bothering us and took him I suspect to give him a good dusting behind the bike sheds. Certainly never heard any more complaints, but did find at least a wg cdr and a sqn ldr in the stair well listening to the interview as best they could. OCAW bought me a beer that night too.
At the end of one exercise in Denmark, we were (unwisely) told just prior to the ENDEX night out in Copenhagen, that we should lay off the sauce as early the following morning, instead of a snoozy ride back to Brize in a Herc, we would have to jump out over Weston on the Green.
I said unwisely because a couple of individuals assumed there would thus be no Customs checks, and decided to take advantage of what they could buy in the Copenhagen red light district. They got a nasty surprise when we found Customs on the DZ at WOG. There were some very red faces in front of the CO the next day...
I said unwisely because a couple of individuals assumed there would thus be no Customs checks, and decided to take advantage of what they could buy in the Copenhagen red light district. They got a nasty surprise when we found Customs on the DZ at WOG. There were some very red faces in front of the CO the next day...
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AB - Good Luck chap, whatever road you take. I would have flown with you in a war zone.
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That is just wrong, he should have all details of his CM removed from his records and resume his post, do they now prosecute those that besmirched his name?