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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 20:21
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I think maybe now is the time that the Coalition should decide to deploy over welming force. We are fighting an enemy that has weapons and money - the idea of ground forces engaging in Iraq and Syria might start alarm bells but
we know that IS are here to the death - the time is now for the coalition to deploy some 'shock and awe' -whether thats Apache's -MBT's -B-52's or a combination -tragic as it might seem but Raqqa needs leveling!
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 20:22
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It may not be universally palatable, but in my opinion the female who Jordan had been holding should be released in accordance with IS wishes - after infecting her with some nasty disease. Ebola springs to mind.
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I have very limited words to describe this.

A level of evil I didn't know still existed in 2015.
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 20:29
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It seems to me that IS are picking a fight to try and get 'crusader' forces on the ground in order to take more life and also try to create a jihad against the Great Satan (other terms are available).

Jordan called 'bull****' on them by demanding a proof that Lt al-Kasabeh was still alive.

The $200M demand for the Japanese hostages was also so large that it was clearly just a 'come on'.

They are not warriors.
Just depraved, criminal thugs - seeking to cause mayhem and make themselves legends in their own warped minds.
As they are being beaten on the battlefield, they need to try and gain some 'kudos' from another 'spectacular'.

There is no way that on their day of judgement that their Maker will ever determine that they have been righteous.

Time to send them the love - thermobarically speaking.
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 20:32
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In their minds the $200M was a proportionate amount to ask for - it was the exact same amount Japan had pledged in funding support a few days earlier. They were simply toying with the Jordanian and Japanese governments.
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 20:43
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Enough is enough, ROE should be reduced and its time to get "medieval on their arse"...

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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 20:58
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They've burned someone therefore we've got to burn a load of people?
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 21:00
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Someone speak to these bozos: Drone Wars UK | Information and comment on use of drones

The horrific act subjected on the poor Lt could have been avoided if we all used more of General Atomics' finest in the real-time armed-ISTAR role...



Lt Moaz al-Kasasbeh will be remembered for his bravery and I am saddened to see a fellow Fast Jet brother go out this way.

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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 21:05
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They've burned someone therefore we've got to burn a load of people?
No, but plenty of the bad people and their sympathasizers should be 'open season' - or would you rather we leave them to continue to hack more people's heads off, crucify people and burn people in cages?

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As an ex FJ mate to another's family and friends I am truly disgusted by the inhumane way IS has taken this forward. I'm sorry but it's about time some politicians grew a set and played by the same rules. The phrase 'bomb them back to the Stone Age' comes to mind. I am struggling to contain my anger at the barbaric behaviour of the scum that have done this.

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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 22:14
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Quote of the day.

A retired Jordanian General on Newsnight put it nicely: 'You cannot be civilised with uncivilised people'.
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 22:25
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Ivor Fynn:

I'm sorry but it's about time some politicians grew a set and played by the same rules. The phrase 'bomb them back to the Stone Age' comes to mind.
They are already there, that is the problem.

My previous comment earlier this evening has been quietly modded out.
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 23:24
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Anyone who says if we drop something big and explosive on these thugs, we are no better than them, would they say the same thing about the lads who dropped bombs on Nazi Germany in WWII? Sometimes good men have to do bad things to stop bad people. Wars are like that.

Setting up a creche so youngsters in the UK don't want to join the thousands already there isn't going to fix the problem.

Every day we worry about collateral damage and international opinion rather than act, these thugs are killing thousands. We get very worked up by the few very public murders they carry out, and quite rightly so, but entire towns and villages are being eradicated.

Unlike Nazi Germany there isn't a head of state and leadership we can identify. No real tactical bases, no airfields, ports, munitions factories, just flies and sand.

We do have weapons that can do that sort of job. They have been used before. Those bombs dropped on Japan were horrific, no one can deny that, but they ended the war, and saved lives in the end.


They sure aren't gonna stop of their own free will. They have to be stopped.
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 23:24
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Maybe this will cause Turkey to stop supporting IS and start helping the Kurds while tightening their borders, disappearing IS supporters within and along thier borders, and opening up a lot of tarmac space. No one needs their ground troops, as their is no place for Eunuchs in this fight.

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Old 4th Feb 2015, 06:05
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Jordan has carried out the threat to hang their Isis inmates. I hope the rest ofthe Arab world follows suit with a suitably short rope.
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Jordan has carried out the threat to hang their Isis inmates. I hope the rest ofthe Arab world follows suit with a suitably short rope.
And whats that going to do, nothing, ISIS won't give a sh!t, just more fallen comrades dying in the course of duty.

Frankly I'm all for it, less scum to feed and pay for, but using it as punishment in this case is a waste of time.
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 06:21
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I have to agree with most of the posts but Melchett 01 said it all.
Incidentaly, beheading is an acceptable form of execution (murder in the case of IS) in the middle east but burning to death is definitely not. IS may just have lost a lot of support.
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 06:24
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Rh200 better give them the general Pershing treatment then.
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 08:03
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Words fail me, this is barbarism on a new scale, I just hope this loses IS support. No negotiation now, you do not talk to a cockroach before you squash it, i see no reason to afford these animals any other treatment.
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 08:26
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Just remember...... they WANT this reaction. Read deeper, this was a professional grade video.

WHY??

They want the infidel to invade their lands and kill Muslims.
When Saddam was executed, my foreign students from "friendly" states were outraged. They said the USA should not be involved in killing Muslims. Remember this, one was a Kuwaiti who had fought against Saddam. Condemning....... US!!
You have to get into the mind of your enemy, there are people way cleverer than I, who could fight them better than we do now. Get the gloves off, but be a ninja not a hammer.
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