Embraer KC-390 takes maiden flight
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Ken, I don't think Embraer need to have Mr B hold their hands on world wide support - they already have facilities world wide for their commercial aircraft.
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KC-390
I think the Eye-brows are included in the windows.. its fly by wire so can be flown up to the envelope limits.
A main strong point of this aircraft is the height of the cabin. It can carry vehicles and helicopters that don't fit the C130. Such as Black Hawk.
And it can refuel fast jets.
I agree Embraer might have a winner here. Not super advanced but right sized and affordable. Where are Lockheed / Boeing? Apparently they waited too long.
A main strong point of this aircraft is the height of the cabin. It can carry vehicles and helicopters that don't fit the C130. Such as Black Hawk.
And it can refuel fast jets.
I agree Embraer might have a winner here. Not super advanced but right sized and affordable. Where are Lockheed / Boeing? Apparently they waited too long.
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"Which is to say, militaries pay a fixed fee for X mission capability rate at Y utilization rate. Embraer cannot do that."
maybe it will be cheap enough so that they don't need a rent-a-car C-17 type arrangement
I also suspect that many of the likely customers aren't that interested in actual utilisation rates - they just need to have some aircraft around to replace their earlier Hercules variants - actual useage will be low
maybe it will be cheap enough so that they don't need a rent-a-car C-17 type arrangement
I also suspect that many of the likely customers aren't that interested in actual utilisation rates - they just need to have some aircraft around to replace their earlier Hercules variants - actual useage will be low
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That (Chilean?) graphic is quite dated, it even has CFM56s instead V2500s. I wonder if they'll consider a GTF for the B model like they're doing to their E-Jet civvie range?
I can't see the KC-390 having the same short field and ramp speed performance as a C-130. And yes, it doesn't look quite right with those
oversized cockpit windows.
Does it carry cargo hold bladders when doing AAR? If not, it won't be venturing too far from home.
And any word on unit costs compared to a C-130J? It's hard to get into a J for under $100m these days.
That (Chilean?) graphic is quite dated, it even has CFM56s instead V2500s. I wonder if they'll consider a GTF for the B model like they're doing to their E-Jet civvie range?
I can't see the KC-390 having the same short field and ramp speed performance as a C-130. And yes, it doesn't look quite right with those
oversized cockpit windows.
Does it carry cargo hold bladders when doing AAR? If not, it won't be venturing too far from home.
And any word on unit costs compared to a C-130J? It's hard to get into a J for under $100m these days.
I read an article that stated it can only perform a limited number of unimproved field landings due to fod / airframe ? vulnerability.
So it may be a good design in some ways it won't ever have the rugged utility
of the C130 or A400.
So it may be a good design in some ways it won't ever have the rugged utility
of the C130 or A400.
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maybe it will be cheap enough so that they don't need a rent-a-car C-17 type arrangement
I also suspect that many of the likely customers aren't that interested in actual utilisation rates - they just need to have some aircraft around to replace their earlier Hercules variants - actual useage will be low
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I read an article that stated it can only perform a limited number of unimproved field landings due to fod / airframe ? vulnerability.
1. Only rotorcraft land at an "unimproved field". Fixed wing transports, no matter how rugged, generally land at what USAF calls "semi-prepared" fields, which is to say unpaved runways.
2. Many civil aircraft can routinely operate from unpaved fields, so it does not take any really special design features to be able to operate from unpaved fields.
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KC-390 exceeds 100 hours of flight
Embraer said its KC-390 military transport prototype has performed more than 100 hours of flight since resumed its testing program.
The tests were resumed in October last year, following a suspension due to government budget constraints two years.
The KC-390 is a twin-engine freighter jet capable of aerial refueling. Embraer expects to receive certification in the second half of 2017.
The Brazilian Air Force plans to buy 28 aircraft of type, with deliveries starting by Embraer from 2018. Argentina, Chile, Colombia and the Czech Republic expressed interest in acquiring the plane.
"We are happy with the aircraft, which has had good availability for the tests, sometimes making two flights a day," said the vice-president of Embraer Paul Gaston Silva. "The airplane is behaving very well and we were able to cover the entire flight envelope.
"We tested the limits of speed, Mach number and altitude, and test all positions of slats, flaps and landing gear. We also made an on-board shutdown, restart with engine and APU. We were able to confirm all of our forecasts for the flight and performance qualities. "
Embraer said its KC-390 military transport prototype has performed more than 100 hours of flight since resumed its testing program.
The tests were resumed in October last year, following a suspension due to government budget constraints two years.
The KC-390 is a twin-engine freighter jet capable of aerial refueling. Embraer expects to receive certification in the second half of 2017.
The Brazilian Air Force plans to buy 28 aircraft of type, with deliveries starting by Embraer from 2018. Argentina, Chile, Colombia and the Czech Republic expressed interest in acquiring the plane.
"We are happy with the aircraft, which has had good availability for the tests, sometimes making two flights a day," said the vice-president of Embraer Paul Gaston Silva. "The airplane is behaving very well and we were able to cover the entire flight envelope.
"We tested the limits of speed, Mach number and altitude, and test all positions of slats, flaps and landing gear. We also made an on-board shutdown, restart with engine and APU. We were able to confirm all of our forecasts for the flight and performance qualities. "
I like the look of this aircraft. Very much "get the job done" look to it. Hope it continues to progress and meet milestones.
It is a trailing static pressure sensor, necessary to calibrate the aircraft's flight instruments.
Commonly seen on the first few test flights of most new designs.
Commonly seen on the first few test flights of most new designs.
It's a trailing static probe that provides accurate data to the test aircrew. Theory is the cone flies outside the aircraft wake and provides accurate P/S data to allow calibration of the on-aircraft systems. Commonly used on early test flights to ensure the data coming directly from the aircraft system is accurate and not being adversely affected by aircraft attitude.
Edit: Wot he said ^^^^^^^
Edit: Wot he said ^^^^^^^
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Originally Posted by BEagle View Post
The F-35B is intended to use the probe-and-drogue system, so why would the KC-390 need a boom system?
glad rag:
"Really? wow bet thats "really" stealthy then...2
The F-35 uses both methods, no?
Originally Posted by BEagle View Post
The F-35B is intended to use the probe-and-drogue system, so why would the KC-390 need a boom system?
glad rag:
"Really? wow bet thats "really" stealthy then...2
The F-35 uses both methods, no?