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Old 8th Jan 2015, 20:10
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Ah yes the BBC that paragon of unbiased anti-Christian reporting from journalists who are frequently not English and not old enough to remember the Cold War. Glad you like relying on them for your opinions.

On the other hand I have first hand knowledge - which wouldn't count against the BBC-newspapers of course.
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Old 9th Jan 2015, 13:29
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royalist - are you suggesting the BBC only employ journo's over 40?

because anyone aged less than that won't really remember the Cold War at all...............
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No quite. Putin is heavily influenced by Priests who are rabidly militaristic. They encourage Russians to take part in a holy war against the West, in Ukraine.

BBC News - The Russians fighting a 'holy war' in Ukraine
Putin?s Orthodox Jihad | The XX Committee

Yes, Russia isn't Communist, its closer in attitude to Germany in the 1930's. They believe the Russian Empire/USSR didn't lose against the West and they want a rematch, driven now by their Holy Roman Empire fantasy of divine destiny which will over come the the Devil (the USA).

Russia today is far worse than the Soviet Union because they are driven by religious delusions and a desire for revenge.
Wow. I read both linked articles and there is no mention of priests (much less priests that are "rabidly militaristic") and no mention of Putin being "heavily influenced" by any priests. You appear to be inventing a strange back story that does not exist and that does not remotely comport with reality. One has to wonder what you motivations are for doing so.

And if you think Putin's unique and odd mix of KGB ideology with orthodox Christian religion is "far worse than the Soviet Union", you are amusingly deluded. Or perhaps just trolling.
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even J V Stalin wasn't above using priests when it suited him in WW2
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Don't expect Russia to make stupid attacks on NATO countries because it would be pointless. Do expect Russia to reclaim its former sphere of influence which includes eastern Ukraine which historically was the original Russia.
Oh, that's alright then - to invade a sovereign country, stage a corrupt referendum, and to fund and supply 'rebels' in the Eastern Oblast of self-same sovereign country? And let's not forget the 'collateral' damage in such an adventure - such as the downing of a Malaysian airliner - and don't come back with tosh about it being shot down by the UKN AF!

On that basis, and using your logic, England would be well within its rights to occupy Normandy, Calais and Brittany on the basis of an historical connection and, err, 'sphere of influence'. How, on Earth, can the Russian invasion of Crimea be supported by State Practices and norms of International Law
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Whenurhappy, this land was Russian until the 1930s, in the case of Crimea until the 1950s. We are talking about events ie the 1950s that are till in living memory and the 1930s, just.
The land was given away by the unelected Soviet government without consulting the local population.
In the scheme of things Crimea being Russian does not matter to us, all of eastern Ukraine or Novorossiya, whatever one wants to call it going back to Russia also does not matter. If the people who live there or enough of them want it so be it. Besides as Maidan showed, if one group of people can rise up and overthrow their government with considerable western support (western politicians walking the streets with protestors and interfering in the internal affairs of Ukraine as they did, remember that!!!!!) then the people of the east can rise up to and say ''tough luck, you ousted the President we voted for by a big margin, you want to join the EU and walk away from Russia, then we will walk away from you''! If one group of people can do as they wish so can another. If Russia does not help them who else will. The western governments screamed loudly if Yanukovych tried to bring order to his country, yet now the new western puppets can do as they please against the people of the east.
All I can say is well done Russia for protecting the people of the Donbass as best as you possibly can and for liberating Crimea.

Besides do we really want to have to pay loads and loads to Kiev!!! What is in it for us!!!!! Leave Ukraine to stay a puppet of Moscow and funded by Moscow.
Our relationship with Moscow is far more important than worrying about Ukraine. We need to work with them on defeating real enemies, like the ones who carried out the terrible attacks in France during the past days who are a threat to us all.

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Ronald, at last you are starting to make sense IMHO.
What are Russia doing to track down the Russians who used a Russian SAM to shoot down the unarmed civilian Malayan airliner. The world needs to be protected from murdering terrorists like that......just as you rightly say
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Regarding terrorism your right. One needs to look at the actions of Washington in Afghanistan in the 1980s with its support for terrorists, also the removal of the Saddam Hussein regime in Iraq creating a power vacuum and allowing terrorists to thrive, the removal of Gaddafi in Libya and the open support of terrorists with NATO supporting them all the way and then the original plans for Syria with the west supporting terrorists and desperate to remove the Assad regime. Strange old world isn't it, with Gaddafi and Assad fighting terrorists but the western governments supporting terrorists against them.


As for Ukraine and the very tragic events regarding the airliner, it appears to have been an accident of war. Though the full truth remains unknown. Kiev should have closed the airspace and Washington should not have launched its coup in Kiev pushing Ukraine into civil war. If there had been no coup in Kiev then there would be no civil war and Ukraine would be at peace today with Yanukovych having to run for office in the next few months. You know, waiting for an election, the way a change of government normally takes place!
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"Oh, that's alright then - to invade a sovereign country, stage a corrupt referendum, and to fund and supply 'rebels' i"

of course WE'VE never done anything like that , ever.........
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