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Canadians, French, U.S. Hunt For Submarine Off Scotland

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Old 10th Dec 2014, 10:14
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Has their Dash 8 gone out of service? No ASW capability but still an MPA.
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Old 10th Dec 2014, 11:08
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It would be very funny if it wasn't so sad !

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Roland- in answer to your question about bears.. no I
don't think anyone does care about them either.. they play the game, we play the game.

why would we care if a nuclear armed sub is 10 km off our shores? what's it going to do... it's not going to for them, and of it is them lions spent on MPA will have solved nothing because they could still fire ICBM from home, what another 10 minutes flying time..
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Old 10th Dec 2014, 11:33
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Anything else you want to get rid of as it's not needed, highflyer? You seem to know so much about it.
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I'm sure Ivan (and maybe others) would be delighted to have compromised or even embarrassed the RN's record for undetected Continuous At-Sea Deterrence.
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Old 10th Dec 2014, 13:09
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High Flyer.

You, sir, have no idea...
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it's not going to for them, and of it is them lions spent on MPA
No idea in more ways than one!
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Sweden has just upped the deterrent stakes lol


Swedish peace group trolls Russian submarines with gay defence system | Technology | The Guardian
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Old 14th May 2015, 03:10
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why would we care if a nuclear armed sub is 10 km off our shores? what's it going to do... it's not going to for them, and of it is them lions spent on MPA will have solved nothing because they could still fire ICBM from home, what another 10 minutes flying time..
Well, not saying this is whats going to happen, but.

Thats ten minutes you have to launch every thing you have, or get into motion the ability to get back at them.

I would hazard a guess, that getting in a first knockout punch is the name of the game.

So bad guys MO is, to develop the ability to limit your responce. The good guys, thats us, is to make sure they don't get that ability, or at least make the response we do give not worth the effort to them.
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Old 14th May 2015, 08:51
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Ignoring the press hyberbole, if it's anywhere outside our 'territorial' waters but still considerably closer than any ICBM launch site, the knock-out punch can still be delivered, not having any MPA just means that our ability to prosecute the aggressor is considerably diminished.

Highly unlikely scenario in any case, assuming it is a russian sub, it's just some more willy waving from uncle putin.

RP, we respond to the bears because we can - simples. Also good practice for other scenario's, it's unlikely that IS will hijack a nuclear sub.
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Old 28th Jul 2015, 09:42
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It would appear they have found a modern Russian sub wreck lying on the bottom just off Sweden.


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Old 28th Jul 2015, 09:57
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Or one from 1916, depending on which report you read!
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