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Old 9th Dec 2014, 18:07
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hmm that one from Sweden?
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hmm that one from Sweden?

More likely the one purchased by the SNP's shadow defense minister in anticipation of the vote for Scotland's departure from the UK.
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sorry didn't see it, can't check every thread
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From proud imperial power to this. The sickest part is that people still vote for the political scum that dragged Britain down to this.
Cameron and Co', rot in HELL.
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Cool, two threads for the price of one. Have our mitigators the 23s and the Merlin got there yet? Thats a hell of a datum.
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From proud imperial power to this. The sickest part is that people still vote for the political scum that dragged Britain down to this.
Cameron and Co', rot in HELL.
While it was indeed the Cameron government that cancelled the Nimrod program, it wasn't much of a choice. Labour had spent ALL the money and BAE had failed to deliver.
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HMS Gannett

As well as MPAs perhaps someone should think of 819NAS being reformed and returned to HMS Gannett. But I suppose with the main site being left to rot and no spare Merlins that's not likely either.
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A lamentable state of affairs but Stendec's post is a bit like cursing the recovery-crane driver for the train-wreck that he's doing his best to clear up.
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Talking Canadians, French, U.S. Hunt For Submarine Off Scotland

Sorry Roadster,
The decision to remove UK MPA capability was taken by Cameron &co in 2010.
Labour spent the money (800bn) to uk banks, as part of a concerted international effort to avert the international financial meltdown.
Back to topic. UK spends 12bn pa on international aid. That would buy a world leading MPA and more besides. At least the deployments show who our real allies are. If the Canadians didn`t find anything, we can sleep safe.
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It's hard to believe some posters are DEFENDING Cameron??? What would be your idea of a bad PM, then?
Think:
i--foreign subs close to UK shores
ii--no MPA in UK service
iii--repeat NO MPA in UK service...at all...nothing...get it?
iv--foreign subs close to UK shores...get it?
v--durrhh, defend Cameron??????

Alright class. Discuss. (I know it's difficult but please keep insults to a minimum)
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According to the World Bank, our Defence Spend as % of GDP was 4.2% or so up until the last years of the Cold War. It is now around 2.3% and is due to fall to around 1.88%, below the NATO benchmark of 2%.

Where are we spending that cash? Asylum seekers, NHS, Pensions or 55" flat screens for our army of benefits claimants?

We need to be told.
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Calm down Stendec, it was Gordon Brown's lot that got rid of the MR2 early! Cameron's team only cancelled the MRA4, and I'm not sure it would ever have got a RTS - there has to be a good reason that the aircraft were scrapped so quickly, behind "closed doors", without any forensic tear downs and without any of the prototypes being allowed to go to museums.

And how close to UK shores do you think is close? Inside territorial waters? 12 nms of shore? 50 or 100 miles off shore? Don't believe everything you read in the press.
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Roland - I would say the reason the scrapping took place behind closed doors was purely to save political face. Ditto why none in museums (despite attempts otherwise). The phrase 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' has never seemed so apt.
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seriously in this day and age who cares if a sub cruises off the coast?

why spend millions on something that really isn't needed?
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Where are we spending that cash?

Are you serious?

Have you lived in a cave for the last 5 years?

We are reducing a massive deficit and are still spending more each year than we earn.
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Where are we spending that cash?

Are you serious?

Have you lived in a cave for the last 5 years?

We are reducing a massive deficit and are still spending more each year than we earn.
Proone, I can see Irony is wasted on yourself. And by the way it has been falling since the end of the Cold War, not just since the deficit post 2009.
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seriously in this day and age who cares if a sub cruises off the coast?
Sweeden apparently.
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seriously in this day and age who cares if a sub cruises off the coast?

why spend millions on something that really isn't needed?
Really? No seriously, really?? You don't really think that not knowing where possibly nuclear capable, cruise missile carrying submarines are around our cost is irrelevant, do you? If that's the case why do we launch 'Q' every time a Bear turns up? After all they are also in international airspace so who cares? Have a Google for "resurgent Russia".
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MATELO,

"Sweden apparently."


Another country with no MPA....
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