Grrrrr some people want jailing and the keys throwing away
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Grrrrr some people want jailing and the keys throwing away
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I hope they get the bastard. Give him to me for 15 minutes and he'd never lift a thing again
BBC News - Poppy seller burned in aerosol attack in Manchester
I hope they get the bastard. Give him to me for 15 minutes and he'd never lift a thing again
BBC News - Poppy seller burned in aerosol attack in Manchester
A 15-year-old Army cadet who was selling poppies for Remembrance Day suffered burns to his face in an attack with a lit aerosol can.
The boy, who was wearing his uniform, was at a bus stop near Manchester Art Gallery at 18:00 GMT on Saturday when he was attacked.
Police said a man lifted an aerosol can and a lighter and sprayed him with lit fumes.
The cadet suffered burns to his face and singed hairs, officers confirmed.
Greater Manchester Police said the offender, described as black or Asian, 5ft 8in tall and wearing a dark hooded top, then walked off without saying a word.
The boy, who was wearing his uniform, was at a bus stop near Manchester Art Gallery at 18:00 GMT on Saturday when he was attacked.
Police said a man lifted an aerosol can and a lighter and sprayed him with lit fumes.
The cadet suffered burns to his face and singed hairs, officers confirmed.
Greater Manchester Police said the offender, described as black or Asian, 5ft 8in tall and wearing a dark hooded top, then walked off without saying a word.
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At the risk of sounding Xenophobic (trust me, I'm far from it!), the description of the offender matches most Muslims. Could this be yet another act of Jihad what with the crap that's going on in the Middle East and parts of Africa, considering he targeted somebody in a uniform selling Poppies?
I hope they catch the tosser who did it.
I hope they catch the tosser who did it.
the description of the offender matches most Muslims
Also matches a lot of Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, West Indians, Christian Africans, Africans of other, or no religion, in fact it matches just about anyone who isnt white or female.
Whatever he is let's hope he is caught very quickly and gets a very long time for GBH (or possibly attempted murder)
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Any attack on a minor is evil and indefensible, but was he attacked because he was selling poppies, or was that something that he had been doing earlier in the day but was unconnected with the attack? Was the assailant p*ssed? Not justifying it or minimising the importance.. just trying to establish if there's a direct link.
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I'm afraid no one's going away for GBH. Reports are the cadet suffered only minor injuries. Attempted murder won't be on the charge sheet either.
Hope the cadet recovers quickly.
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I'm afraid no one's going away for GBH. Reports are the cadet suffered only minor injuries. Attempted murder won't be on the charge sheet either.
Hope the cadet recovers quickly.
Hope the cadet recovers quickly.
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This is yet another case where the law is powerless to punish the miscreant appropriately. If identified, and my guess is he won't be (the CCTV won't have been working, there were no credible witnesses, etc) he should be handed over to the friends and family of the young lad he harmed, in a dark place with nobody to see what ensues.
It would nice to think that if the police catch him, he'd fall whilst resisting arrest, coming into hard contact with a very hard kerbstone, and then perhaps fall out of the back of a moving police van whilst trying to escape .............. where some nice folk armed with baseball bats and bicycle chains would be waiting for him.
I'm glad to hear that the young poppy seller wasn't seriously hurt.
It would nice to think that if the police catch him, he'd fall whilst resisting arrest, coming into hard contact with a very hard kerbstone, and then perhaps fall out of the back of a moving police van whilst trying to escape .............. where some nice folk armed with baseball bats and bicycle chains would be waiting for him.
I'm glad to hear that the young poppy seller wasn't seriously hurt.
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Just for a change though the normally PC police are actually mentioning that it's an Asian man, and not just asking for witnesses to come forward. For the press to repeat it really shows that perhaps, the error of the PC brigade is finally being eroded. I hope they get this sod, and when they do, let him go and join his brothers in Syria, without a right to return to Britain. Pure scum.
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Actually it could well be worse than GBH for the villain. If the victim is 15 and the perp is an adult then that's an offence against a minor - jail time and child offence register likely.
Capetonian, this isn't the seventies you know. Nobody falls down the stairs anymore. Mores the pity I often feel.
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Capetonian, this isn't the seventies you know. Nobody falls down the stairs anymore. Mores the pity I often feel.
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It's about time our Government stood up and grew a pair and punished crimes like this appropriately! If this was motivated by selling poppies and not some richard head yob (lets face it, we all know it was..) After Lee Rigby, this is a very sad day indeed and im sure my words echo many out there that have read this thread! I have family taking up permanent residence in French soil and as far as I am concerned, this lad was representing 'my' family!
Need to find out how to send something to this lad, let him know he isn't alone and people 'do' care! Get well soon pal if you get to read these messages?
Need to find out how to send something to this lad, let him know he isn't alone and people 'do' care! Get well soon pal if you get to read these messages?
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TTN, as far as I'm aware, the other groups you mention don't go out of their way to attack anybody even remotely related to the Military.
If this fella is of an Islamic disposition, then I hope he is dealt with properly and not just given a slap on the wrist for ABH....
Even if he's not, I hope the book gets well and truly chucked at him!
If this fella is of an Islamic disposition, then I hope he is dealt with properly and not just given a slap on the wrist for ABH....
Even if he's not, I hope the book gets well and truly chucked at him!
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TTN, at least they seem to have eliminated white Muslim converts, Arabs and Africans.
Tag, maybe, but then I would blame the report, although most people would describe someone from the far east as Chinese appearance rather than Asian.
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Disagree. Sadly this is just another PC word implicating at a stroke any one from Pakistan, through Uzbekistan, to Japan and beyond.
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Hope the young chap makes a full recovery, must have been a frightening experience.
I would have though the chance of a collar very possible, with the amount of CCTV and more these days in your average city, town. If plod can get it on, its a good test for them but I reakon they can get this person.
What was the motivation for the attack? A reaction to the presence of the uniform? More likely a planned attack on a collector bearing in mind the attacker was carrying an unusual item with which he has singled out a guy on his own and attacked him, so maybe it was a planned attack all along for that day and the perp struck lucky at the days end on a soft target? To take a detached view, its seems likely to expect more of the same. UK has been involved in fighting with and killing muslims in so many places over the last 20 I've now lost count,so are people really surprised if we were on the receiving end of some sort of savage retribution, justified or not? (Fighting is always so easy to justify, you only have to listen to our side to know that, let alone their side).
The never ending spiral of violence, once started its like one of those long rows of knock on dominoes.
Always remember a mate of mine setting about a young German kid in Deci, just because he was a German, and this is like 50 years after the wars end. There's no longer any reason to do it, but people still do.
I would have though the chance of a collar very possible, with the amount of CCTV and more these days in your average city, town. If plod can get it on, its a good test for them but I reakon they can get this person.
What was the motivation for the attack? A reaction to the presence of the uniform? More likely a planned attack on a collector bearing in mind the attacker was carrying an unusual item with which he has singled out a guy on his own and attacked him, so maybe it was a planned attack all along for that day and the perp struck lucky at the days end on a soft target? To take a detached view, its seems likely to expect more of the same. UK has been involved in fighting with and killing muslims in so many places over the last 20 I've now lost count,so are people really surprised if we were on the receiving end of some sort of savage retribution, justified or not? (Fighting is always so easy to justify, you only have to listen to our side to know that, let alone their side).
The never ending spiral of violence, once started its like one of those long rows of knock on dominoes.
Always remember a mate of mine setting about a young German kid in Deci, just because he was a German, and this is like 50 years after the wars end. There's no longer any reason to do it, but people still do.
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If the local police force is really under the P.C. folks thumb, as in some areas, then they might find that it was the lad's fault for being in Manchester whereas he could have gone to many other places in the UK where he could have sold poppies.
