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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 15:34
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Did I just hear right that F35's have also been used? (during military briefing from USA on SKY news)
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I thought we had spent several years training up the Iraqi armed services. Why is their Air Force and army units not invoved in the fight against ISIS.

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They are fighting ISIS but on their own turf/sand. No capacity to deal with Syrian turf/sand.
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DoD states 47 x TLAM fired during first attack:

http://dodnews.defense.gov/Video.aspx?videoid=362197

I had the opportunity to tour an Arleigh Burke class DDG - the USS Pinckney - during Fleet Week in San Diego last Saturday. An impressive piece of kit with a 32-cell and 64-cell Mk 41 Vertical Launch System which can be loaded with any combination of Tomahawk LAM, Standard SAM or ASROC depending on the anticipated mission.

Mark 41 Vertical Launching System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...NormadyVLS.jpg

I was also able to tour the USS Somerset - a San Antonio class LPD - which is state of the art. The bridge layout / equipment was a quantum leap forward from the Arleigh Burke class with computer displays for everything including functions which had chinagraph boards on the DDG. For instance the XO was able to monitor the precise status of propulsion and power generation on a single screen.

I spoke to several sailors manning displays on the USS Nimitz (tour limited to hangar and flight deck). All below Chief commented about the uncertainties created by cruises being extended considerably in reaction to contingencies arising and subsequent retasking (eg from 6 months to 10+ months).
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Did I just hear right that F35's have also been used? (during military briefing from USA on SKY news)
Yep first operational deployment went without a hitch.



In the simulator that is.
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DoD Press Briefing by 3* Joint Staff Director of Ops - 23 Sep 14 - 24 minutes: http://dodnews.defense.gov/Video.aspx?videoid=362249
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No - F-35 was not used - F-22 was used for the first time in action in attack role using PGM against Command and Control Center (DoD video of what was actually said refers). During question time, a press person asked about the use of the F-35 for the first time (F-22 briefed earlier) and the Army 3* briefer didn't correct him when answering.

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They are fighting ISIS but on their own turf/sand. No capacity to deal with Syrian turf/sand.
They don't have the capacity to deal with them in their own country.
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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 22:25
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It's important to remember that 99% of the pro afghanistan/iraq invasion posts on pprune turned out to be foolish.

It would be nice to see less whooping and hollering this time around. Stay safe to all those involved.
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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 23:06
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it appears there was no coordination or consultation with the Syrian government before the attack, which may have repercusion later.

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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 23:44
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it appears there was no coordination or consultation with the Syrian government before the attack, which may have repercusion later.
Yea there have been a few articles written about the leaglities of it. It seems there is some wriggle room in international law. So I'm guessing that they have enough different interpretations to play legal aerobics with it for years.
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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 23:51
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Weapon System Videos from US Central Command

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bpa...2yFVLbWGeHhbYA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ty...2yFVLbWGeHhbYA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nShv...2yFVLbWGeHhbYA
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Oh dear, How the mighty has fallen.
Great Britain was given a courtesy call that Air strikes were inbound.
Syria was given a courtesy call that airstrikes were inbound.
Assad and Cameron on the same dist list.
WTF.
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Parliament could be recalled as soon as Friday to authorise Britain’s participation in air strikes against Isis militants
Syria air strikes: Parliament could be recalled as David Cameron hints at involvement in Middle East - UK Politics - UK - The Independent
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Sounds like the Syrians decided to stay at home - no point in them putting themselves in harms way when someone else is doing a job they might have to do themsleves in a few months
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You're right HH, ironicaly we are now cleaning up Assad's back yard for him! The Obama administration is still supplying arms to the so-called "moderate Muslim" rebels in the are and one wonders where those weapons will end up. Bit of a mess.

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Old 24th Sep 2014, 18:57
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It never works though, does it?

Yet another war, just what the world needs. A waste of time, money and innocent lives. My own diary tells me one way or another we have been trying air warfare and dishing this sort of destruction out since Bush the elder, Clinton, Bush2 and now the current. Or Major, Blair, Brown and Cameron.
All the brains and advice between them all and its only brought it all to this.
If you were born in Iraq in 1991 you are now, what? 23 - so this is all you've known in this region, all your life. Syria, lord knows how long since they've known a normality.
Granted, I wouldn't start from here as the Irish say, but heaven help us.
Cant be that hard for this current crop to disappear and regroup once the bombing is over.
Other options were tried?
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 19:18
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Syria, lord knows how long since they've known a normality.
About 3 years.......

Between 2000 and the start of the civil war in 2011/12, Syria was quite 'normal' compared to many of it's neighbours.
Even prior to 2000 under the rule of Assad's father it was not in internal conflict of a serious nature.
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It started long before 1991, The RAF were doing it in the 1920's and the Turks on the ground long before that.
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Maybe that's why Assad's old man flattened the 4th biggest City in Syria (Homs) with artillery in 1982 due to a major jihadist revolt.
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