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Old 26th Aug 2014, 12:21
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Edith Bloody Bowman will be first in the deportation trebuchet if she is south of the border when/if the Scottish have a huge collective brain fart.
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Old 26th Aug 2014, 12:29
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Originally Posted by Surplus
As long as Susan Boyle is north of Hadrian's wall, we'll consider it a win/win situation.
A bit unfair on Northumberland, don't you think?

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Culloden 2? Sorted.
If you think that Culloden was a battle between the English and the Scots, you couldn't be more wrong. It was the end of an uprising (during which more Scots had been in the British Army than on the Jacobite side) whose aim was to displace the bunch of northern Europeans who occupied the thrones of England, Scotland and Ireland over the previous five and a half decades with a family who had lived in France/Italy over the same period.
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Old 26th Aug 2014, 12:31
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I thought tha there was a lot of scot on scot action at culloden.
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Old 26th Aug 2014, 12:34
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Aye it was mostly highlanders against turn coat lowlanders who whored themselves for gold and land.
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Old 26th Aug 2014, 12:38
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A bit unfair on Northumberland, don't you think?
Sacrifices have to be made, on the bright side, she'll improve the gene pool.
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Old 26th Aug 2014, 12:41
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Aye it was mostly highlanders against turn coat lowlanders who whored themselves for gold and land.
Aye, or possibly folk who felt the lesser of the available evils was not with a family who left Scotland for London in 1603 with barely a backward glance: and who had repeatedly shown since that they cared nothing for the country, seeing it only as a convenient and, in parts, gullible stepping stone en route to their real prize, the recapture of the English crown.
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Old 26th Aug 2014, 12:59
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more than likely.

But then again reliving all that old ****e really doesn't help living today.
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Old 26th Aug 2014, 14:57
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Aye, or possibly folk who felt the lesser of the available evils was not with a family who left Scotland for London in 1603 with barely a backward glance: and who had repeatedly shown since that they cared nothing for the country, seeing it only as a convenient and, in parts, gullible stepping stone en route to their real prize, the recapture of the English crown.
Perhaps true, but he reigned for more than 50 years without going to war. Our current "leaders" might care to learn a few things from him. Indeed, the Wisest Fool in Christendom.
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 18:03
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What do Scotland need defence forces for?


They need coastal forces for air sea rescue and protection of oil rigs, fisheries etc.. Some National Guard type unit for internal security/emergencies.


What else?


I don't see that they will want to throw their weight around internationally. When the Russian 'Bears' buzz Scotland's air space they can simply ignore them. Why would the Russians really want to overfly Scotland? It's pointless.


They could make some pretty big financial savings in this area.
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 18:42
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Should Scotland stay or leave, the shores of the British Isles (what else would they be called) would need protection, in the interest of all inhabitants. Surely any rump UK Government wouldn't leave those vulnerable areas to the North in the hands of a weaker (Northern) neighbour? As an English inhabitant, I would certainly hope this would be so. TOTALLY DAFT
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 18:54
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give em some old hawks...there's a few painted red not doing anything worthwhile stationed near me.


FISH....going to hide now!!!
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 19:17
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Reinstate Hadrian's Wall! That's all we need to do! Oh and give special passes to the English left on the wrong side of the border
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 21:05
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It won't be "rump UK", just "UK".
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 21:43
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No, can't even raise a smile about it all.

A split of the union, I can't but even raise a smile- we are talking the end of Britain here.
Listening tonight to the boring drawl of Conservative MPs like North Somerset's current self serving daddies-boy spastic, I wouldn't call the Scots for wanting to leave. Deeply regrettable and was probably wholly avoidable, thanks to Conservative Party politics (a pox on them all).
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 23:06
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They could make some pretty big financial savings in this area
Sadly, its not so much "what they need" but more "what they are feel they are entitled to" as part of the 8%/92% split. It will be used as a bargaining chip in negotiations (much the same way the subs at Faslane will be) - we (iScotland) will give you (rUK) what you want (subs remain at Faslane, Typhoons south of the border etc) if you give us what we want (currency union, shipbuilding contracts etc etc).

All of this will, of course, be irrelevant in the event of a NO vote.
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Old 29th Aug 2014, 07:21
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All of this will, of course, be irrelevant in the event of a NO vote.

Not really as it is rumoured Mr Salmond will ask for another vote in five years time thereby causing more uncertainty and financial loss to the people of Scotland! Just try selling a house in Scotland and you will know what is really happening to the Scottish econemy!
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Old 29th Aug 2014, 07:26
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Should Scotland stay or leave, the shores of the British Isles (what else would they be called)
Perhaps the 'Former UK' - FUK!
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Old 29th Aug 2014, 07:47
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I think 'God's country' will suffice.
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Old 29th Aug 2014, 08:35
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"the British Isles (what else would they be called)"

The Irish Republic favours the term The Atlantic Isles. Some on the left now use this term in when covering Northern Ireland issues and pre Union history!
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Old 29th Aug 2014, 09:24
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If Scotland leaves, where is the other 'Kingdom' for the English crown to be United with?
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