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Old 19th Sep 2014, 16:34
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Salmond Quits!

BBC News - Scottish referendum: Alex Salmond to quit as first minister
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Old 19th Sep 2014, 17:01
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Oh no - does that mean we are going to have to endure even more of that ghastly woman?
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Old 19th Sep 2014, 17:28
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after the Salmon cometh the Sturgeon.

Is there a Chubb, Dace, Halibut or even a Spratt to make 2 i/c?

Why, when said Sturgeon speaks on TV does it always seem as if sound is not synched?
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Old 19th Sep 2014, 17:45
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I wonder if they are going to drop the National out of Scottish National Party, I totally agree with comments about that annoying woman, she drove me to changing channels.
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Old 19th Sep 2014, 21:34
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Hmmm, Salmond says once in a generation chance. Sturgeon did say a couple of weeks ago they could try again in 5 years. NP, the boss says once in a generation so problem :-) Then the boss resigns

So what chance they try again in 2019? Subs moved to faslane, t26 programme underway aghhhhhh

Think we need to tie new powers for Scotland to no more referendums for 20 years
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Old 19th Sep 2014, 22:15
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Something is fishy in "the north country".
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Old 20th Sep 2014, 00:23
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The next referendum should be held in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, to see whether they should be allowed to stay.
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Old 20th Sep 2014, 00:35
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I thought they needed the agreement of Parliament to hold a referendum, hence the Salmond Cameron signing to hold this one, with the closeness of the vote, I don't think Parliament will be agreeing to another such fiasco any time soon. It would probably be political suicide for a PM to sign up to another.
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Old 20th Sep 2014, 10:03
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Type 26 to be built in Pompey? BAe reopens' yard?

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Old 20th Sep 2014, 11:04
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Oh go on tell me why?
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Old 20th Sep 2014, 12:52
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He has "resigned" before. 'Tis just a wee ploy to give him time to plan his next attempt to split the Union. He will be back in two years!

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Old 20th Sep 2014, 14:29
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Wee Eck has resigned, both he and Cameron have said no re-run for a generation. Guess that make the speculation, and this thread, a bit pointless..........Hat, coat................
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Old 20th Sep 2014, 15:19
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A generation yes......of fruit flies!


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Old 20th Sep 2014, 16:45
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No British Parliament in our lifetimes is ever going to grant a referendum.

It would have to be insurrection, not democracy, if the Yessers are to get their way.
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Old 20th Sep 2014, 19:56
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I don't think Parliament will be agreeing to another such fiasco any time soon.
I think you'll find the real fiasco is only just beginning.
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Old 20th Sep 2014, 19:59
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Salmond served his country well.

He did. In his time he saw a new Scottish parliament, led it and even got a national referendum out of Camshaft, which he then very nearly won. He saw an international debate about Scotland and its future, brought his country worldwide massive publicity while at it, and has now got a national debate going about the English and future of us Britons as a whole,which is on-going and will be well into the next Gen Election.
He lit a rocket under the fat lazy arses of Westminster.
I would rather thank him than belittle him.
Time for all of Britain to wake up a bit and face the future.
From myself as an Englishman as well.
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Old 20th Sep 2014, 20:11
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Well said Hangarshuffle.
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He lit the fuse.

But the bomb hasn't gone off yet, its started ticking(or hissing-you get my drift)? Federalism may yet come the islands way.
It seems logical. We as Britain's have always been up at the front, despite what some others say. Constitutional monarchy, mother of Parliaments, first Industrial Revolution going up the hill and then possibly the first to de-industrialise as well as we come down again. We often seem to show a history of firsts.
We may well be on the way to more change. I see a break up now, in the years ahead, of what we once knew as Great Britain.
I mean Brussels, the EU is the heart of Europe and the brain behind of our law and our governance now, is it not>?
Why not Federalise into semi autocratic regions but take our nod from Europe? London would be a separate very successful country in itself, and I could see in the future Scotland, Wales, Cornwall (the Cornish in particular seem to hate England, see the little flag they all fly), IOM, pre-Norman conquest Mercia, likewise pre Norman Northumberland, all re-emerging as countries or devolved regions of their own again.
We may keep a currency, a head of state and an armed force even, but I just think for a variety of reasons this sort of thing may gather apace in the next 50 years.
Call me mad, I just have a feeling the big gassy foreign-looking talking apparition thing is out of the bottle at last.
If I live long enough I may one day welcome it.
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Get over yourself HS! Change is driven by the balance of pressures and the fortunes of opportunity.

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Why not Federalise into semi autocratic regions but take our nod from Europe?
Depends rather on which parts of Europe you have in mind. Unless they be of countries which have a unified ethic anyway, we'll be taking the nod from those that take a neutral stance on all matters, especially military. Always looking inwards and minding their own business. Is that really us?
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