IRAQ 3?
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The key question regarding the carriers is how many F-35s will we get?! Probably only have about 6 embark on a cruise. It will just be another very costly PR exercise, a token to show that we are with Washington, that we are strong, that we are important, that our leaders have real power.
There must be a load of surplus A-10s sitting in desert storage these days..How about pulling them out and letting all those out of work Harrier mates have something to keep current on?
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Britains leaders are dropping out like flies.
Minister quits because £120,000 salary and expenses is not enough to support his family in London - Telegraph
This is the second UK Conservative Government Foreign Minister to resign in one week. Just when we need their brains, ability and leadership, Lincolnshire and the little squealers become more important.
Whose in charge in Britain now the PM's on the beach? Is it Clegg? He seems very absent also.
This is the second UK Conservative Government Foreign Minister to resign in one week. Just when we need their brains, ability and leadership, Lincolnshire and the little squealers become more important.
Whose in charge in Britain now the PM's on the beach? Is it Clegg? He seems very absent also.
Ronald, when you say "our leaders", of whom are you talking?
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All is well. Of our 3 x GR4 Sqns; 31 have just stagged on for the last turn of the handle in Kandahar, IX (B) are just back and on leave, leaving shiny II as our deployable force element. Sorted. Best hurry up though as the sqn disbands in 7 months....
All is well. Of our 3 x GR4 Sqns; 31 have just stagged on for the last turn of the handle in Kandahar, IX (B) are just back and on leave, leaving shiny II as our deployable force element. Sorted. Best hurry up though as the sqn disbands in 7 months....
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3 have left UK, more to follow if BBC are on the nail. No mention of tanker support yet but guess it has to happen.
BBC News - RAF Tornado jets leave UK for Iraq aid mission
BBC News - RAF Tornado jets leave UK for Iraq aid mission
had a bright thought listening to the gnus.
"why is not Switzerland [for example] "doing something about it". [Whatever "it" is].
Never mind the government being commitment-phobic, most of the country are commitment-phobic".
"why is not Switzerland [for example] "doing something about it". [Whatever "it" is].
Never mind the government being commitment-phobic, most of the country are commitment-phobic".
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The video of the other aid being dropped by Helicopter,
I think an Iraqi one.
They said it came under fire and they showed video of the gunner firing his weapon,
does that mean the Chinooks are likely to be armed ?
I think an Iraqi one.
They said it came under fire and they showed video of the gunner firing his weapon,
does that mean the Chinooks are likely to be armed ?
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Based at Akkers - going to be some long sorties and 'interesting routing'. Hope Voyager is ready to go....
Shame our C17s aren't cleared CDS airdrop - 40 at a time vs the C130's 16(?) might be quite useful.
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I just noticed a news flash that one of the Mi-17 helicopters crashed on take off
due to too many people climbed on board. Very sad.
I found the video I was referring to above.
This also shows the level of "discipline/control like on the ground?"
The kid holding onto the gun as the Helicopter takes off and
is pulled inside when they are airborne is at 1.35 onwards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMgPaAUxwvU
I just noticed a news flash that one of the Mi-17 helicopters crashed on take off
due to too many people climbed on board. Very sad.
I found the video I was referring to above.
This also shows the level of "discipline/control like on the ground?"
The kid holding onto the gun as the Helicopter takes off and
is pulled inside when they are airborne is at 1.35 onwards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMgPaAUxwvU
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Originally Posted by 500N:8605359
I found the video i was referring to above.
This also shows the level of "discipline/control like on the ground?"
The kid holding onto the gun as the Helicopter takes off and
is pulled inside when they are airborne is at 1.35 onwards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMgPaAUxwvU
This also shows the level of "discipline/control like on the ground?"
The kid holding onto the gun as the Helicopter takes off and
is pulled inside when they are airborne is at 1.35 onwards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMgPaAUxwvU
I witnessed such chaotic scenes on several missions with 18 Sqn at the start of Haven.
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I would say it is chaotic but anything out of normal military
methods I would say was chaotic.
Not sure about the gunner firing his MG and whether that was just for the camera to make good footage,
maybe someone with good experience can pass judgement on it.
I would say it is chaotic but anything out of normal military
methods I would say was chaotic.
Not sure about the gunner firing his MG and whether that was just for the camera to make good footage,
maybe someone with good experience can pass judgement on it.
Uncle G
I have the ultimate faith in the Brize crews - just hope the rest of the system is up to it. At least its relatively benign and a couple of handy divs in Turkey (Dipclrs permitting!) it should prove to be a good test.
I have the ultimate faith in the Brize crews - just hope the rest of the system is up to it. At least its relatively benign and a couple of handy divs in Turkey (Dipclrs permitting!) it should prove to be a good test.